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  • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

    what's the splash damage from calling snoop a hypocrite?

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    Scroll up. This was explained. If you think it was not adequately explained; we do not need to speak.

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      Scroll up. This was explained. If you think it was not adequately explained; we do not need to speak.

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      what i see when i scroll up is you pivoting from "this specific guy is a hypocrite" to "someone saying this after having done that is a hypocrite" and condemning that. but those two things are not equivalent at all.

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      • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

        what i see when i scroll up is you pivoting from "this specific guy is a hypocrite" to "someone saying this after having done that is a hypocrite" and condemning that. but those two things are not equivalent at all.

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        Read the names. We're done here.

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          Read the names. We're done here.

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          i have you tagged 🙂

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            Around 5% of the population. So yes it's overrepresented

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            Let me repeat myself: there is no such thing as "overrepresentation". There isn't, and shouldn't be, a moral or legal law that states that TV and movie producers have to follow census data strictly in their casting. That would be stupid.

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              I know about ancient greece, and as I've said I don't care personally what people do / who they love. Don't assume just because I consider homosexual behaviour to be abnormal, that I'm somehow opposed to it / think it inherently "wrong" or anything. I also don't have a personal issue with it in movies, particularly more adult themed movies -- though I do think it's massively over-represented at this point, as almost every movie/show I see has heavy lgbtq+ themes wedged in haphazardly, often to the detriment of the plot.

              Younger generations claiming to be lgbtq+, or being on the gender spectrum, doesn't really impact my view, I admit. First, it's still a minority, which makes it abnormal. Grouping all abnormal types together also inflates the perspective of how common it is for any one subset. Young people are also more inclined to be affected by perceptions of benefits / "going along with what's approved in media". Even the stats on that site generally support this, noting that the breakdown between men/women is hugely lopsided amongst Gen Z, and with the bulk of the change seemingly being women identifying as bisexual. That fits quite a bit with how its presented in media -- so I'd still question whether it's kids being 'genuine' in their experiences/feelings, or if it's media pushing certain messages and kids reacting to those messages. Media can clearly influence peoples world views / perspectives, at times in ways that aren't authentic -- we're all keen to recognise as such when we talk about the negative impact of fox news -- so it'd seem strange to pretend like it can't have a similar reality-distorting effect in this area, given the level of over-representation of lgbtq+ themes. Particularly bi-sexual women, as media likes to treat women as sex objects desired by "everyone", and wedge in some lesbian sex scenes to boot. Almost every series/movie has lgbtq+ stuff in it these days, which is one reason Snoop is uncomfortable taking kids to movies -- it's gotten pretty rare to see a same-race healthy relationship straight couple in media.

              To approach it from a slightly different angle: it's like trying to find non-emo edgelord male characters in anime (which, in its space, feeds the indoctrination of alpha male sorts) -- or the negative male stereo-types pushed by people like Tate. If we accept/recognise that certain media representations can "make" young people more extreme in that sort of space, then I don't think it's at all unreasonable to say that media can "make" young people more gender fluid on the flip side. Part of being young, is lacking critical objectivity.

              Also, in terms of the polling and benefits, hell, I personally identify as "other" on all government polls, because "other" gets preferential treatment/hiring options, while "male" gets rejection letters. That isn't an authentic response, but it's a necessary response to get past certain hiring criteria -- I've literally had rejection letters stating "you're not part of an equity group" in the past, when I answered male (in Canada, literally the reason the federal government rejected my application). Workplaces have no business blocking people from employment due to their preference, even when it comes to us CIS folks.

              As for seeing things in public -- a kid could see a horrific car accident by chance, corpses everywhere. That doesn't mean it's appropriate to show a 6 year old graphic death scenes. Or to use a less extreme example, and a fairly common one, they could walk in on their parents fucking -- it still wouldn't be appropriate for a movie for kids to have a bunch of sex scenes. Content involving adult stuff should have an adult rating, even if "some" kids may encounter those things earlier in life by happenstance.

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              By your very same logic then what's been portrayed in media for decades for "standard" relationships has manipulated lgbtq+ into being straight when they are not.

              It's clear by your terminology use, way off-base side rants, and continued use of impractical/inappropriate metaphors that you just don't care or are willing to try and understand. You hold heterosexual relationships above all else and nothing will change that. Luckily your kind of limited exposure and thoughts are now in the "abnormal" minority.

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                By your very same logic then what's been portrayed in media for decades for "standard" relationships has manipulated lgbtq+ into being straight when they are not.

                It's clear by your terminology use, way off-base side rants, and continued use of impractical/inappropriate metaphors that you just don't care or are willing to try and understand. You hold heterosexual relationships above all else and nothing will change that. Luckily your kind of limited exposure and thoughts are now in the "abnormal" minority.

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                They're in the minority on lemmy, sure.

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                  well several studies already came out with contradicting your comment otherwise.

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                  Lol, there have been several studies on Snoop Dogg's weed smoking?

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                    Because there is zero need for same sex political discourse to be shoehorned into a friggin kids cartoon.

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                      Because there is zero need for same sex political discourse to be shoehorned into a friggin kids cartoon.

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                        Let me repeat myself: there is no such thing as "overrepresentation". There isn't, and shouldn't be, a moral or legal law that states that TV and movie producers have to follow census data strictly in their casting. That would be stupid.

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                        It seems to me that films are supposed to be as close to reality as possible to be credible.

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                          It seems to me that films are supposed to be as close to reality as possible to be credible.

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                          You're thinking about "documentaries". There's this whole other universe of films commonly referred to as "fiction". Or are you upset that Hobbits are overrepresented in The Lord of the Rings, blue aliens in Avatar and people who can fly in Superman, too? Maybe there's too many British people in Downton Abbey and too few Vietnamese in West Side Story?

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                            well several studies already came out with contradicting your comment otherwise.

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                            Weed doesn't cause homophobia, genius. Are you high right now?

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                              You're thinking about "documentaries". There's this whole other universe of films commonly referred to as "fiction". Or are you upset that Hobbits are overrepresented in The Lord of the Rings, blue aliens in Avatar and people who can fly in Superman, too? Maybe there's too many British people in Downton Abbey and too few Vietnamese in West Side Story?

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                              Just speaking about the most common movies not scify or fantasy.

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                                Just speaking about the most common movies not scify or fantasy.

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                                In that case I've already explained why you're wrong.

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                                  In that case I've already explained why you're wrong.

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                                  Having a different opinion to yours doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong. In this case, it's you who lacks tolerance.

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                                    Having a different opinion to yours doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong. In this case, it's you who lacks tolerance.

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                                    You're complaining that too many people of the "wrong" kind are represented in media and I'm the one who lacks tolerance? Man, I thought maybe you were just ignorant but it turns out you're actually mentally handicapped.

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