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The duality of man

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    Well, America wasn't America yet exactly 100 years ago (being a young country and all), and the deaths and overall instability in the region took place mostly through the British and the French, fair enough, but I feel like they more than made up for it:

    Also, it's just the internal balance of power that has changed over the years, not the identity or objectives of the bloc.

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    Well, America wasn't America yet exactly 100 years ago (being a young country and all)

    Huh? What are you talking about?

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      The West was bombing the Middle East 100 years ago too, though. 🤷

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      People love to idealize the past...

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        Tf is “the West”? Who specifically? I don’t remember any chapter in the US where we bombed the shit out of the ME in the 1920s.

        Sick to death of braindead leftist comments talking about “the West” like wtf are you even saying? Also sick to death of “the East” and the Middle East being portrayed as helpless victims. The Ottomans would like a word.

        Go earn your “I hate america I hate The West” brownie points on reddit and tumblr.

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        "The West" is Europe and its colonies. Funny to assume anyone you don't understand is brain dead.

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          The West was bombing the Middle East 100 years ago too, though. 🤷

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          They didn't invent bombs back then only rocks and sharp sticks.

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            Republican today should say “four, and let’s bomb the Middle East twice!”

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            Don't forget that they also want to execute anyone who's trans.

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              This is propaganda enabling the far right to win future elections.

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                imagine having a 2 party system.

                (said the dude living in a country where every but one party are right - far right)

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                  Well, America wasn't America yet exactly 100 years ago (being a young country and all)

                  Huh? What are you talking about?

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                  In the context of aggressive foreign policy where we bomb the shit out of people... They are probably referring to how in the 1910s USA was stumbling through an incursion into Mexico to fight rebels / raiders. As we joined WW1, some saw us as a rowdy militia, like cowboys. We had to borrow materiel because we weren't yet a proper war-machine like European countries were. Exactly 100 years ago that wasn't the case though. Yet there would still be quite a ways to go until the era of "top 3 air forces" and super carriers patrolling the globe while drones blow 'terrorists' to smithereens.

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                    Seriously. Tired of folks trying to act like they’re on the same level of shitiness. Magats are in a league of their own.

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                    Accepting either presented level of shittiness is what got us here in the first place.

                    Trump couldn't have done it without Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. The House Reps would struggle more, if it wasn't for people like Schumer. If Democrats had called out AIPAC over the past twenty years instead of drooling over the opportunity to aid and abet war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide for them, we'd never had the whole "yeah i am voting for the slow genocide" argumentation being somehow "acceptable".

                    And the most important thing is that the current Democrats are not going to be a driver for positive change. They are still fighting against moderate progressives like Mamdani and pushing for neoliberal reactionaries like Newsom instead.

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                      Accepting either presented level of shittiness is what got us here in the first place.

                      Trump couldn't have done it without Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. The House Reps would struggle more, if it wasn't for people like Schumer. If Democrats had called out AIPAC over the past twenty years instead of drooling over the opportunity to aid and abet war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide for them, we'd never had the whole "yeah i am voting for the slow genocide" argumentation being somehow "acceptable".

                      And the most important thing is that the current Democrats are not going to be a driver for positive change. They are still fighting against moderate progressives like Mamdani and pushing for neoliberal reactionaries like Newsom instead.

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                      Maybe, but they're not helping Republicans as much as people like you

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                        The democrat would be too scared of their own shadow to even leave their house

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                          This is propaganda enabling the far right to win future elections.

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                          What's worse, bombing the middle east, or calling the Democrats out for bombing the middle east?

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                            This is propaganda enabling the far right to win future elections.

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                            Ah yes the checks notes
                            propaganda of admitting that the opposition also bombs the middle east, marginally less so than the far right.

                            (Although some dems are doing all they can to edge closer to the far right)

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                              Maybe, but they're not helping Republicans as much as people like you

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                              How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately “elevated” Donald Trump with its “pied piper” strategy

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                                In the context of aggressive foreign policy where we bomb the shit out of people... They are probably referring to how in the 1910s USA was stumbling through an incursion into Mexico to fight rebels / raiders. As we joined WW1, some saw us as a rowdy militia, like cowboys. We had to borrow materiel because we weren't yet a proper war-machine like European countries were. Exactly 100 years ago that wasn't the case though. Yet there would still be quite a ways to go until the era of "top 3 air forces" and super carriers patrolling the globe while drones blow 'terrorists' to smithereens.

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                                I'd say 1898 was the point USA stepped up into the big leagues after their victory in the Spanish-American War. But that's arguable, I also like your point.

                                However, "exactly 100 years" was 1925, so 7 years after WW1 and unquestionable when USA was absolutely a very serious global power.

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                                  What's worse, bombing the middle east, or calling the Democrats out for bombing the middle east?

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                                  Calling the Dems out for bombing the middle East while it is not a partisan issue.

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                                    How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately “elevated” Donald Trump with its “pied piper” strategy

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                                    You understand that doesn't contradict my point in any way right?

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                                      This is propaganda enabling the far right to win future elections.

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                                      When you look into the history of this country it's fucking horrific. And not just in the obvious "we used to have slaves" or the "we bombed the Vietnamese" way.

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                                        Seriously. Tired of folks trying to act like they’re on the same level of shitiness. Magats are in a league of their own.

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                                        This country has been going to shit since Ronald fucking Reagan. Yes, that means Republicans are terrible. That also means the Democrats are either complicit or powerless to stop it.

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                                        • balderdash9@lemmy.zipB [email protected]

                                          When you look into the history of this country it's fucking horrific. And not just in the obvious "we used to have slaves" or the "we bombed the Vietnamese" way.

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                                          This is not related to the post. And pointless.

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