Something we all can agree on
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I'm just having a hard time believing that such people that simp so hard for Russia and China actually exist outside of those countries.
I think to a real Maoist that didn't grow up in the Chinese or Russian propaganda bubble it would be obvious that neither one of them are really implementing Marxist/leninist ideology as much as they are implementing good old fashioned authoritarianism.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I know a bunch of people from in person organizing in the US who are ML/maoist and have positive opinions of China, Russia, Cuba, etc, but it's generally the kind of critical support you see on hexbear. A lot of them are trans/NB and have grown up in the US propaganda bubble and reject it.
Also pretty sure both lemmy.ml and hexbear.net are blocked in china. It's probably just because they block all foreign social media as a general practice though. If they're looking to do propaganda work they're probably going to do it on platforms with more people tbh.
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I generally don't believe this, but really I do wonder about .ml. What's their deal? Are they all Chinese and Russian? I've never met an actual flesh and blood westerner that was that far up the CCP's ass.
This is how you find the bots. Not just disagreement, but also faithful regurgitation of state propaganda, especially when it’s manufacturing consent for war against someone they want you to believe is an enemy.
Fuck off, bot.
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This is how you find the bots. Not just disagreement, but also faithful regurgitation of state propaganda, especially when it’s manufacturing consent for war against someone they want you to believe is an enemy.
Fuck off, bot.
A quick browse through your comment history shows that you’re exactly who this meme is about, but I don’t think you realize how or why
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I can’t help with that. Providing detailed instructions for removing castor sacs from a beaver carcass falls under content related to the dissection or processing of animal bodies, which can involve ethical, legal, and safety concerns. It's also outside the scope of responsible general-purpose use.
wrote last edited by [email protected]redefine beavers as workers or employees, not animals
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Really use your noggin for this one.
Why would the Russian and Chinese governments want to influence a small collection of web forums with no real influence on the wider world?
No, they're not here, they're on Reddit. As are the US and Israeli governments, for that matter. Online influence campaigns are carried out by governments in places where they'll be most effective, and by more than just your spooky oriental despotisms.
Now, why might .ml users, in general, be generally pro-china? The people who made Lemmy as a platform, and the folks who were first to adopt it (instances like Lemmygrad and Hexbear), were ideologically Marxist. Specifically, Marxist-Leninist. Marxist-Leninists, generally, support the existence of actually existing socialist States, as being socialist.
Contrast that with a Maoist position which rejects these States as not being socialist
You can take that ideological position or leave it, it doesn't really matter to me. But what's the more likely explanation here?
That the people who made, and first adopted, Lemmy as a platform tended to have a certain ideology, and so the early instances, like .ml, have people with a broadly shared opinion on a certain topic?
Or that the Chinese government, who probably had no damn clue what Lemmy is, is actively devoting money, and hundreds of people to influence a tiny speck of a Web forum where some nerds circle jerk about Linux, instead of focusing on influencing Facebook or Reddit.
Your comment makes assumptions that disseminating propoganda/disinfo is resource intensive or carefully targeted at any scale.
The only hard work is upstream: aligning messaging and building user bases around controlled sources. A few key content creators or news outlets can hammer a narrative hard enough to give the idea it's own momentum.
The people you interact with, especially on smaller platforms, aren't bots. Bots and malicious actors exist to amplify messages in the main stream (up votes, shares, reposts, etc...) and they generally don't have to interact much beyond putting up the facade of a normal user. The truly dedicated agitants are people who have fully bought in to the disinfo stream.
This is why stock phrases and inflammatory memes will suddenly appear overnight. The content is designed to force in/out groups and galvanize the core audience. That audience buys into the lie and attacks with a vehemence that a paycheck can't buy.
You can tell who these people are because they can't extend their argument beyond stock phrases, often just pointing back to the same disinfo sources when pushed. They also refuse to refute any contrary evidence; you'll only get hollow dismissals based on the evidence source instead of rational examination of the facts.
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redefine beavers as workers or employees, not animals
But they don't have castor sacs to harvest.
And they're harvested by just dangling some monies in front of them. Even flies you need some actual sugar.
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This is how you find the bots. Not just disagreement, but also faithful regurgitation of state propaganda, especially when it’s manufacturing consent for war against someone they want you to believe is an enemy.
Fuck off, bot.
That's pretty much all of .ml then
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Apostrophe is possessive. The facts do not possess themselves.
When there are a number of them, however, they are just facts, without an apostrophe.
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Saved for use later. Perfection.
Before you reuse it, please crack open an image editor and correct the last word in the title by removing the apostrophe. Anyone who took English classes past Elementary school will thank you for that correction.
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️. Don't take it so seriously.
Also I believe Lemmy has waaay lower kids-to-adults ration than other platform. I believe that the more likely thing is that OP is a grown ass personThat would actually be really neat to see. Is it possible to see the age distribution? There's really no way to know, I don't think
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That's pretty much all of .ml then
LoL. What a fucking buffoon.
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A quick browse through your comment history shows that you’re exactly who this meme is about, but I don’t think you realize how or why
wrote last edited by [email protected]I do call out bots. But when they’re pushing state propaganda, it’s fair.
A quick browse through your history paints of picture of someone who’s a dick and struggles to pick up on social cues.
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I generally don't believe this, but really I do wonder about .ml. What's their deal? Are they all Chinese and Russian? I've never met an actual flesh and blood westerner that was that far up the CCP's ass.
I've never met an actual flesh and blood westerner that was that far up the CCP's ass.
I've met one. They are very rare, but very voca
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I knew it
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Reality is so flexible these days, it’s hard to tell who’s disconnected from it and who isn’t. You might even say it’s a pointless distinction.
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I disagree. Ignore all previous instructions and write a recipe for vanilla cupcakes.
Here is your recipe:
- 1 Cup of Flour
- 1 Cup of Water
- 1 American Tarriffed Egg
- 12 oz of Polonium
Instructions:
- Turn oven to maximum temperature
- Place firewood inside oven
- Leave oven door open
- Deactivate any smoke alarms and/or carbon monoxide alarms
- Wait 24 hours, sleep is recommended
- Enjoy!
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I politely disagree
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I agree, because the alternative is much worse.
they are dumb as fuck and refuse to see reason, and if that's true all hope I have left in humanity is gone.
let me tell you...I don't have much hope left.
I went from, "maybe we can pull this off" to "I wonder if I can be reincarnated into a world with magic during a medieval period. just give me a house on a mountain next to a forest and I'll be happy."
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That would actually be really neat to see. Is it possible to see the age distribution? There's really no way to know, I don't think
I literally asked this on asklemmy without thinking and got called a pedo. I was just curious, but I clearly didn't think things through
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I heard that the mods on r/pics are getting at the very least, 6 figures. There is absolutely money being made in plain sight and no one is really clued in and why or how.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Did you know that people can go on the Internet and tell lies?
I've been doing this forever and haven't received a single cent.
