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"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership

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  • wabafee@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

    My guess they started accounting for bot visits. Perhaps a lot of videos before were visited by bots. Not just to bump views but could be for training AI.

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    Or they could be subtracting viewers with ad blockers? It would make sense that more techie channels would be hit the hardest.

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      I didn’t mind paying a fiver but had to do it via the moon to get it cheap but now they have stopped that.

      Useful idiot mentality. They're charging you that money to maximize profit, not because it's necessary to provide the service.

      Your "fivers" are paying for their nicer campuses, executive bonuses, and lavish business trips/vacations. Analysts also use it as an excuse to charge more, since the data shows that people like you are "happy/proud" to get ripped off.

      I wish proles were smarter and a bit more mean so they could better recognize how they're being taken advantage of and how often they support their oppressors.

      Too many of you go along with getting taken for a ride because you want to fit in and avoid conflict. Businessmen take advantage of that mentality every day.

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      It must be exhausting being this way.

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        Ignorance is bliss, I tell ya h'wat.

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          Eh. I lost any interest I had with Linus after the whole Gamers' Nexus thing, and I'm definitely staying away after hearing what Louis Rossman had to say about the guy.

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          i wonder whats his problem

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            A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

            EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
            EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

            Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

            Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

            Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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            the channel has lost its charm. its just puking out videos, but there is no content. no real hardware tests. only drama and clickbait crap. he has lost the techsavvy part of the viewers on his tech channel with pushing garbage into everyones face.

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              A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

              EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
              EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

              Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

              Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

              Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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              Lol 90% of comments taking the opportunity to hate on LTT and missing the point of the post. Views are dropping for multiple channels.

              Also the LTT hate is mostly "He's so rich and out of touch". LTT is the mass produced TV show for tech YouTube. It's meant to be entertaining and easy to watch for the masses. I like watching most of their videos. Gamers Nexus has its place too but it's a different kind of nerd whose a lil more cynical and obsessed with specs, a lot more niche and it shows in the views.

              To each their own.

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                The more interesting part for me, that they mentioned on the WAN show, is that while viewers dropped significantly, the revenue basically hasn't changed. They're more or less making the same amount of money from half the amount of reported viewers.

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                Isn't that the formula? They take all of the revenue, set aside the percentage they've set for revenue share, and then divide that among all channels based on viewer counts. Dropping viewership for all channels proportionally means that the same amount of revenue will still be distributed to the channels in the previous ratios.

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                • wabafee@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                  My guess they started accounting for bot visits. Perhaps a lot of videos before were visited by bots. Not just to bump views but could be for training AI.

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                  I agree, people forget how fake the internet is.

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                    Isn't that the formula? They take all of the revenue, set aside the percentage they've set for revenue share, and then divide that among all channels based on viewer counts. Dropping viewership for all channels proportionally means that the same amount of revenue will still be distributed to the channels in the previous ratios.

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                    The same proportion will be given but the total revenue overall should shrink with less viewers, so less for each creator.

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                      Isn't that the formula? They take all of the revenue, set aside the percentage they've set for revenue share, and then divide that among all channels based on viewer counts. Dropping viewership for all channels proportionally means that the same amount of revenue will still be distributed to the channels in the previous ratios.

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                      I'm not quite sure I understood what you were talking about, but they specifically showed their revenues from YouTube AdSense for the past year or so, and they showed exactly how much they gained from each video, and it shows basically a straight line, whilst the same graph for viewers shows a substantial decrease. I'm not sure if that was specifically for LTT or for all of their channels, but I'm assuming it was just for LTT. That has no relation to them then splitting their revenues to their different channels.

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                        They are using automatic dubbing by default here in France! I was horrified the first time.

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                        This honestly doesn't surprise me, because English proficiency in France is below that of Spain, Russia and even Italy, which says a lot.

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                          Or they could be subtracting viewers with ad blockers? It would make sense that more techie channels would be hit the hardest.

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                          I think you've hit it on the nose right here. Especially since this declining viewership problem has been hitting channels across all of YouTube and it has only been since they started their crusade against ad blockers.

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                            Oh I didn't know that was the case. I've only really started using it, but I think peertube.wtf hosts some for you. I just started a new account with fedimovie today — because I can't seem to access wtf for some reason — and I think it said on their sign up page that they have 100gb for me to use.

                            So, when you say self-host, would I have to have an instance of Peertube myself, or can I have an account with an instance and host just the videos?

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                            My experience is that basically, if you actually want to do anything meaningful with video, you need to host your own instance, because no one wants to be beholden to the bandwidth, especially if it gets any uptake. In which case, obviously, you're on your own for the costs. The only way I can see PeerTube working is if a few of the medium size YouTubers & Twitch streamers with decent monthly Patreon takes band together and fund it that way.

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                              Or they could be subtracting viewers with ad blockers? It would make sense that more techie channels would be hit the hardest.

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                              The overwhelming majority of Youtube visitors use the official app and even those who use a browser don't have an adblock 88% of the time if my memory serves me right. So no, it's not adblock.

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                                They are using automatic dubbing by default here in France! I was horrified the first time.

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                                It horrifies me as a German. They also get titles, descriptions and comments wrong all the time. It legitimately doesn't work.

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                                  Yes exactly. They provide a service, you pay for it by watching ads and facilitating personalised advertising.

                                  In comparison, some of the books I’ve bought have cost more per book than a month of YouTube premium, so the value isn’t THAT bad on YouTube.

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                                  Only if you don't value your time.

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                                    The more interesting part for me, that they mentioned on the WAN show, is that while viewers dropped significantly, the revenue basically hasn't changed. They're more or less making the same amount of money from half the amount of reported viewers.

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                                    They're more or less making the same amount of money from half the amount of reported viewers.

                                    This would pretty much confirm that they've stopped counting viewers who use adblockers.

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                                      After some time it "learns" you don't want it.

                                      But what grinds my gears instead are auto-translated video titles.
                                      Because I am watching maybe 70-80% english content I decided the lesser evil is to just set the language to english instead.
                                      Annoying as fuck but managable.

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                                      Because I am watching maybe 70-80% english content I decided the lesser evil is to just set the language to english instead.

                                      Google has always made it extremely clear that they don't believe it's possible for the human brain to know more than one language, and that anyone who claims to know more than one is a liar and a witch and has no place in their platforms.

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                                        A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                                        EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                                        EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                                        Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                                        Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                                        Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                                        I came here to see if it was the early signs of the demise of YouTube. I secretly want all these content producers to move to a privacy-respecting platform, especially those who produce tech or privacy related content.

                                        Now, for why I don't watch videos anymore, the medium isn't as easily consumed by me. I prefer text. At home, it's noisy and I get interrupted every 90 seconds. I lose interest quickly and fast forwarding isn't as easy as scanning text for a topic shift. My mind wanders on some topics, internally exploring that topic deeper. With text, i can just stop reading. With video, i need to realize that I'm processing a thought and hit pause, then rewind a bit. I get interrupted a lot. On the bus, I need to remember headphones and I hate when people shoulder surf. That's harder to do with text. Give me a plain text RSS feed that I can read anytime.

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                                          Lol 90% of comments taking the opportunity to hate on LTT and missing the point of the post. Views are dropping for multiple channels.

                                          Also the LTT hate is mostly "He's so rich and out of touch". LTT is the mass produced TV show for tech YouTube. It's meant to be entertaining and easy to watch for the masses. I like watching most of their videos. Gamers Nexus has its place too but it's a different kind of nerd whose a lil more cynical and obsessed with specs, a lot more niche and it shows in the views.

                                          To each their own.

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                                          Most of the hate should be that he really doesn't know what he is doing and should have a disclaimer as such.

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