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"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership

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  • S [email protected]

    Also that video where he tried Mac OSX for the first time. All his complains in that video were that it didn’t work like Windows.

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    There is a difference between those willing to change something and those trying something out.

    I use Apple devices at work and the sometimes ass-backwards way of hotkeys or UI decisions is really aggravating annoyance in regards to logically understanding the task needed to do something comparison to another OS like Windows.

    E.g. deleting the app data of an app on iOS.
    Why can't I just reset a damn app? Why do I need to uninstall and download it again from the store??

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      Why is Yahtzee complaining about the same issue? He does games, not tech: https://youtu.be/cpVnx4_yqTo

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      Tbf games content is also saturated af.

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        Very true. The last decade and a half have just been switching between round and square corners with mild spec bumps. VR was supposed to be it I think, but it just isn't useful enough.

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        VR still is it. If you have €€€€

        Take the bigscreen beyond 2.
        A vr-headset starting at 1300 (incl. taxes/import).
        Uhhh yeah.
        Not happening for what little VR could offer me in my current situation (and I don't watch porn).

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          A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

          EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
          EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

          Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

          Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

          Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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          The more interesting part for me, that they mentioned on the WAN show, is that while viewers dropped significantly, the revenue basically hasn't changed. They're more or less making the same amount of money from half the amount of reported viewers.

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          • M [email protected]

            A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

            EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
            EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

            Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

            Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

            Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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            My guess they started accounting for bot visits. Perhaps a lot of videos before were visited by bots. Not just to bump views but could be for training AI.

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              He will look for answers literally anywhere, except for within.

              The tech scene is just not as interesting anymore, and the stuff he specifically covers is even less interesting. But the bigger issue is that everything LMG do is just corporate jank. It was fun when it was home garage jank, with 2 employees, but now it's just miserable and frustrating. And thats not even taking any of the interpersonal issues, or legal drama from recent history

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              He will look for answers literally anywhere, except for within.

              The tech scene is just not as interesting anymore

              He has literally publicly talked about this many times, he is very much aware of this fact and has stated that he's always looking for things that he can try and make interesting.

              and the stuff he specifically covers is even less interesting. But the bigger issue is that everything LMG do is just corporate jank. It was fun when it was home garage jank, with 2 employees, but now it's just miserable and frustrating

              On this part, I honestly don't quite get it. It's definitely a bit more corporate now, they are a 100 person company, but when it comes to the videos, I don't really see what else you'd want them to do? Sure they have some sponsored videos every now and then that are just showcases of a specific product, but even then I typically find them relatively interesting. And they still have a lot of videos where they're trying to build novel stuff and thinkering. Yeah, sure, it's typically on a higher level than what the average Joe would be capable of doing in their backyard, but I still feel like there's a place for it. Take one of the more recent videos, the one with the double-decker table. It's extremely cool to me, they took a regular table and a sit-to-stand desk, put one on top of the other, and made effectively two desks in one, one for gaming and one for a hobby. It's not something I'd build for myself, but it's a really fun concept.

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              • wabafee@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                My guess they started accounting for bot visits. Perhaps a lot of videos before were visited by bots. Not just to bump views but could be for training AI.

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                Or they could be subtracting viewers with ad blockers? It would make sense that more techie channels would be hit the hardest.

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                • H [email protected]

                  I didn’t mind paying a fiver but had to do it via the moon to get it cheap but now they have stopped that.

                  Useful idiot mentality. They're charging you that money to maximize profit, not because it's necessary to provide the service.

                  Your "fivers" are paying for their nicer campuses, executive bonuses, and lavish business trips/vacations. Analysts also use it as an excuse to charge more, since the data shows that people like you are "happy/proud" to get ripped off.

                  I wish proles were smarter and a bit more mean so they could better recognize how they're being taken advantage of and how often they support their oppressors.

                  Too many of you go along with getting taken for a ride because you want to fit in and avoid conflict. Businessmen take advantage of that mentality every day.

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                  It must be exhausting being this way.

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                    Ignorance is bliss, I tell ya h'wat.

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                      Eh. I lost any interest I had with Linus after the whole Gamers' Nexus thing, and I'm definitely staying away after hearing what Louis Rossman had to say about the guy.

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                      i wonder whats his problem

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                        A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                        EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                        EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                        Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                        Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                        Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                        the channel has lost its charm. its just puking out videos, but there is no content. no real hardware tests. only drama and clickbait crap. he has lost the techsavvy part of the viewers on his tech channel with pushing garbage into everyones face.

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                        • M [email protected]

                          A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                          EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                          EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                          Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                          Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                          Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                          Lol 90% of comments taking the opportunity to hate on LTT and missing the point of the post. Views are dropping for multiple channels.

                          Also the LTT hate is mostly "He's so rich and out of touch". LTT is the mass produced TV show for tech YouTube. It's meant to be entertaining and easy to watch for the masses. I like watching most of their videos. Gamers Nexus has its place too but it's a different kind of nerd whose a lil more cynical and obsessed with specs, a lot more niche and it shows in the views.

                          To each their own.

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                          • R [email protected]

                            The more interesting part for me, that they mentioned on the WAN show, is that while viewers dropped significantly, the revenue basically hasn't changed. They're more or less making the same amount of money from half the amount of reported viewers.

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                            Isn't that the formula? They take all of the revenue, set aside the percentage they've set for revenue share, and then divide that among all channels based on viewer counts. Dropping viewership for all channels proportionally means that the same amount of revenue will still be distributed to the channels in the previous ratios.

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                              My guess they started accounting for bot visits. Perhaps a lot of videos before were visited by bots. Not just to bump views but could be for training AI.

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                              I agree, people forget how fake the internet is.

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                                Isn't that the formula? They take all of the revenue, set aside the percentage they've set for revenue share, and then divide that among all channels based on viewer counts. Dropping viewership for all channels proportionally means that the same amount of revenue will still be distributed to the channels in the previous ratios.

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                                The same proportion will be given but the total revenue overall should shrink with less viewers, so less for each creator.

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                                  Isn't that the formula? They take all of the revenue, set aside the percentage they've set for revenue share, and then divide that among all channels based on viewer counts. Dropping viewership for all channels proportionally means that the same amount of revenue will still be distributed to the channels in the previous ratios.

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                                  I'm not quite sure I understood what you were talking about, but they specifically showed their revenues from YouTube AdSense for the past year or so, and they showed exactly how much they gained from each video, and it shows basically a straight line, whilst the same graph for viewers shows a substantial decrease. I'm not sure if that was specifically for LTT or for all of their channels, but I'm assuming it was just for LTT. That has no relation to them then splitting their revenues to their different channels.

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                                    They are using automatic dubbing by default here in France! I was horrified the first time.

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                                    This honestly doesn't surprise me, because English proficiency in France is below that of Spain, Russia and even Italy, which says a lot.

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                                      Or they could be subtracting viewers with ad blockers? It would make sense that more techie channels would be hit the hardest.

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                                      I think you've hit it on the nose right here. Especially since this declining viewership problem has been hitting channels across all of YouTube and it has only been since they started their crusade against ad blockers.

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                                        Oh I didn't know that was the case. I've only really started using it, but I think peertube.wtf hosts some for you. I just started a new account with fedimovie today — because I can't seem to access wtf for some reason — and I think it said on their sign up page that they have 100gb for me to use.

                                        So, when you say self-host, would I have to have an instance of Peertube myself, or can I have an account with an instance and host just the videos?

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                                        My experience is that basically, if you actually want to do anything meaningful with video, you need to host your own instance, because no one wants to be beholden to the bandwidth, especially if it gets any uptake. In which case, obviously, you're on your own for the costs. The only way I can see PeerTube working is if a few of the medium size YouTubers & Twitch streamers with decent monthly Patreon takes band together and fund it that way.

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                                          Or they could be subtracting viewers with ad blockers? It would make sense that more techie channels would be hit the hardest.

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                                          The overwhelming majority of Youtube visitors use the official app and even those who use a browser don't have an adblock 88% of the time if my memory serves me right. So no, it's not adblock.

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