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what is my "type"? i'm into guys who look like this

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  • M [email protected]

    sigh....."chav" is a classist slur that means "working class person"

    it neither answers my question nor does it narrow anything down. it’s like if someone posted photos of black guys with dreads and fancy hats and they asked what type of guy they’re into and people just responded back with the n word like it answers the question or even remotely narrows anything down

    https://theconversation.com/married-at-first-sight-shows-the-classist-2000s-insult-chav-hasnt-left-britains-cultural-conversation-242637

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavs:_The_Demonization_of_the_Working_Class

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    Are you posting this question in order to get people to say chav so you have an excuse to spread the word about "chav" being inappropriate?

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      Are you posting this question in order to get people to say chav so you have an excuse to spread the word about "chav" being inappropriate?

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      it is inappropriate because it's a slur. i'd feel the same way about someone posting pictures of rastafari men and the person posting doesn't know what the word for them is, but instead of people giving an actual answer they just respond with "those are (n word)s" over and over

      i don't know if it's just people trying to be edgy or not because they themselves don't know the answer but it left a bad taste in my mouth

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        Stop it. Just stop trolling.

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        I think maybe he's got learning difficulties or something. He's posted the same troll bait yesterday and is responding in the same way each time.

        Probably best not to entertain him.

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        • M [email protected]

          i'm English and there's so many guys like this where i live but there doesn't seem to be an actual name for them which is annoying bc i don't have a name for what i'm into.

          is there an actual, well agreed upon name that's well recognised in the uk for these guys so people know what i'm on about? 😐

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          That's Britain's version of white trash, Chav. And no. It's not the same as the n word. We're all typing Chav but not a single one of us is actually typing out the actual n word.

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          • mydarkesttimeline01@ani.socialM [email protected]

            That's Britain's version of white trash, Chav. And no. It's not the same as the n word. We're all typing Chav but not a single one of us is actually typing out the actual n word.

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            there's literally a whole book about how chav is a classist slur meant to demonise the working class https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavs:_The_Demonization_of_the_Working_Class

            see also https://theconversation.com/married-at-first-sight-shows-the-classist-2000s-insult-chav-hasnt-left-britains-cultural-conversation-242637

            it might not be as bad as the n word but it's still a slur that doesn't even remotely narrow anything down (working class people are half to a majority of the population in the uk) it's like someone posting pictures of rastafari men and the person posting doesn’t know what the word for them is, but instead of people giving an actual answer they just respond with “those are (n word)s” over and over

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              there's literally a whole book about how chav is a classist slur meant to demonise the working class https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavs:_The_Demonization_of_the_Working_Class

              see also https://theconversation.com/married-at-first-sight-shows-the-classist-2000s-insult-chav-hasnt-left-britains-cultural-conversation-242637

              it might not be as bad as the n word but it's still a slur that doesn't even remotely narrow anything down (working class people are half to a majority of the population in the uk) it's like someone posting pictures of rastafari men and the person posting doesn’t know what the word for them is, but instead of people giving an actual answer they just respond with “those are (n word)s” over and over

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              Holy false equivalence Batman! And you still proved my point. Just stop. You've lost, you're not going to make people stop using that word. And all your insistence is doing is making it much more fun for people who enjoy getting the goat of those who want to clutch at their pearls of non-issues.

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              • mydarkesttimeline01@ani.socialM [email protected]

                Holy false equivalence Batman! And you still proved my point. Just stop. You've lost, you're not going to make people stop using that word. And all your insistence is doing is making it much more fun for people who enjoy getting the goat of those who want to clutch at their pearls of non-issues.

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                what i'm trying to say is it's not just offensive it's also completely irrelevant and doesn't answer my question -_-

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                  what i'm trying to say is it's not just offensive it's also completely irrelevant and doesn't answer my question -_-

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                  No, what you are is a person who gets triggered by words like "nerd" or "geek". Words that have been colloquially accepted, even by those that fall into the groups. Your insistence that not be used because you believe it to be derogatory stems more from the fact that you don't like the perceived judgment that reflects on you because of the person that you're attracted to. The simple fixes you just stop caring that certain people use that word in a derogatory sense and instead embrace the term as endearing.

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                  • mydarkesttimeline01@ani.socialM [email protected]

                    No, what you are is a person who gets triggered by words like "nerd" or "geek". Words that have been colloquially accepted, even by those that fall into the groups. Your insistence that not be used because you believe it to be derogatory stems more from the fact that you don't like the perceived judgment that reflects on you because of the person that you're attracted to. The simple fixes you just stop caring that certain people use that word in a derogatory sense and instead embrace the term as endearing.

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                    it isn't what i believe, it's literally a recognised classist slur that means "working class/poor person". did you read these?

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavs:_The_Demonization_of_the_Working_Class

                    https://theconversation.com/married-at-first-sight-shows-the-classist-2000s-insult-chav-hasnt-left-britains-cultural-conversation-242637

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                      i'm English and there's so many guys like this where i live but there doesn't seem to be an actual name for them which is annoying bc i don't have a name for what i'm into.

                      is there an actual, well agreed upon name that's well recognised in the uk for these guys so people know what i'm on about? 😐

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                      • mydarkesttimeline01@ani.socialM [email protected]

                        That's Britain's version of white trash, Chav. And no. It's not the same as the n word. We're all typing Chav but not a single one of us is actually typing out the actual n word.

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                        Pretty sure some news show like CNN haD a segment on "what word is more racist, cracker or the n-word". Then someone like Jon Stewart or Jon Oliver covered that and could only scream "THE ONE YOU CAN'T SAY OR SHOW ON TV!" Good times.

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                        • M [email protected]

                          it is inappropriate because it's a slur. i'd feel the same way about someone posting pictures of rastafari men and the person posting doesn't know what the word for them is, but instead of people giving an actual answer they just respond with "those are (n word)s" over and over

                          i don't know if it's just people trying to be edgy or not because they themselves don't know the answer but it left a bad taste in my mouth

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                          you didn't answer their question

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                          • leraje@piefed.blahaj.zoneL [email protected]

                            What an odd question.

                            You clearly know you have a 'type' and can easily point out examples of that type - that being the case why on earth do you need a word for it? How does applying a word help you find more people of that type? You're not classifying a new species.

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                            you've given an excellent answer.

                            and what an odd response you've gotten from OP 🙄 (nothing, because this was clearly a setup)

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                            • M [email protected]

                              i'm English and there's so many guys like this where i live but there doesn't seem to be an actual name for them which is annoying bc i don't have a name for what i'm into.

                              is there an actual, well agreed upon name that's well recognised in the uk for these guys so people know what i'm on about? 😐

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                              Icy hot stuntaz?

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                              • M [email protected]

                                i'm English and there's so many guys like this where i live but there doesn't seem to be an actual name for them which is annoying bc i don't have a name for what i'm into.

                                is there an actual, well agreed upon name that's well recognised in the uk for these guys so people know what i'm on about? 😐

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                                It looks like you're just a ballcap away from being down for Stephen Miller, at which point I'd encourage you to re-think your life choices...

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                                  i'm English and there's so many guys like this where i live but there doesn't seem to be an actual name for them which is annoying bc i don't have a name for what i'm into.

                                  is there an actual, well agreed upon name that's well recognised in the uk for these guys so people know what i'm on about? 😐

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                                  Losers?

                                  Dweebs?

                                  Pieces of shit?

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                                  • M [email protected]

                                    sigh....."chav" is a classist slur that means "working class person"

                                    it neither answers my question nor does it narrow anything down. it’s like if someone posted photos of black guys with dreads and fancy hats and they asked what type of guy they’re into and people just responded back with the n word like it answers the question or even remotely narrows anything down

                                    https://theconversation.com/married-at-first-sight-shows-the-classist-2000s-insult-chav-hasnt-left-britains-cultural-conversation-242637

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavs:_The_Demonization_of_the_Working_Class

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                                    I'm not disagreeing that it's a working clas slur, I know that. But you asked what the well agreed upon name is for that subculture is... and sadly it's a slur. I've seen people describe themselves or their style using that word, I've been people put in dating profiles (both as a self description, and as something they're looking for).

                                    This fashion article uses it repeatedly (and acknowledges it's contraversial origins as a word), but also uses "casuals", "English working class youth" and "football hooligan" as subculture groups that wear that style of urban street wear.

                                    If you don't like it, don't use it. But it is the common agreed upon term that you wanted to know. British society doest have quite the same issue with race as the USA, but It has a huge problem with classisim, and it is made much worse because people don't even see it as a problem. You said that people wouldn't Just describe a guy in dredds using a racial slur, but they would have 80 years ago. Britain is still at that stage with its attitudes to working class culture. And appropriately, "Chavs" by Owen Jones is a good introduction to people interested in the issue.

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                                      i'm English and there's so many guys like this where i live but there doesn't seem to be an actual name for them which is annoying bc i don't have a name for what i'm into.

                                      is there an actual, well agreed upon name that's well recognised in the uk for these guys so people know what i'm on about? 😐

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                                      We call them:

                                      • talahoons
                                      • Kanaken
                                      • nazis
                                      • dumme sexisten

                                      In Germany.

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                                        i'm English and there's so many guys like this where i live but there doesn't seem to be an actual name for them which is annoying bc i don't have a name for what i'm into.

                                        is there an actual, well agreed upon name that's well recognised in the uk for these guys so people know what i'm on about? 😐

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                                        Without using slurs, I'd say your type is "pretty fly for a white guy".

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                                          i'm English and there's so many guys like this where i live but there doesn't seem to be an actual name for them which is annoying bc i don't have a name for what i'm into.

                                          is there an actual, well agreed upon name that's well recognised in the uk for these guys so people know what i'm on about? 😐

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                                          every single one has a stupid hat on

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