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Time to bash Americans again

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    When brown, they are inmigrantes anda those are ghettos. When white, they are expats in expat communities.

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    Typically "expat" communities are much wealthier. Poor white immigrants live in pretty shit conditions too and the areas are considered ghettos, at least historically

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      There’s also this level of like, still identifying as being primarily of the country they’re from, like a rejection of assimilation into the place they’ve moved to. I’m not saying that’s inherently good or bad, but, it’s an interesting dynamic, and an option that a lot of immigrants don’t have.

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      an option that a lot of immigrants don’t have.

      Especially when a lot of the same type of people will throw a fit if an 'immigrant' doesn't do everything they can to assimilate.

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        No, no, no. These weapons pale in comparison to basic infantry in the modern military. Not only are they way overkill for anything a law abiding citizen should ever need for recreation, they would also be useless in the case of a 2nd Amendment related coup of the corrupt government.

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        Are you saying an AR-15 can't take out an attack helicopter at 2000m??

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          "Expat" is my favourite dog whistle. Because "migrant" is only used for brown people, or other undesirable minorities for racists.

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          There is technically a difference in the definition, but mostly people use it exactly as you're describing.

          I've really had to catch myself when I notice myself using it.

          But honestly it's so expected that people can get confused when you call yourself an immigrant (and you aren't doing it to make yourself a martyr somehow).

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            Why would you move to the Netherlands if you are MAGA? Isn't your country so much greater again now? You ellected your king and then you left?

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            Well, if this wasn't a troll account, it would probably be for work. The US has a military presence in the Netherlands, and we have a lot of corporate cross-over, especially in the tech industry, like the photo lithography involved in making CPUs. It isn't that weird.

            This is s troll though

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              laughs in Dutch politics

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              Cries in Dutch politics

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                Gun suicides or suicides in general?

                Because suicides will always be an issue. Guns just make it easier. How many mass shootings have the swiss had though? Switzerland has a "List of mass shootings" article on Wikipedia. The US has a "ListS of mass shootings" category. The US list for 2018 alone is significantly longer than Switzerland's list starting with 1905. I realize that Switzerland has a smaller population, but the per capita rates have a large discrepancy too. Something like a 9x difference.

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                As I said gun suicides.

                And guns are a big part of the problem. Science has proven that over and over.

                Yes America has other problems. For example not accepting that it is not in a healthy enough mental state to own guns.

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                  Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don't shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels

                  Whenever i mention the Swiss having as many guns as the US, if not more, and yet the former has practically zero mass shooting incidents, and pointed out the problem of America is cultural, Americans tend to turn a blind eye to it.

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                  Oops, replied to the wrong comment, lol.

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                    It's more than just mental healthcare. American society is just broken in so many ways.

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                    Yup. I sometimes travel (or travelled for that matter... I'm not going back to that shit hole) to the US and basically everyone there is living an act. It's so weird and artificial and it all boils down to an "I'm the best and deserve everything, all the others can go fuck themselves" attitude. This is highly toxic and can easily lead to violence. Pair that with how they breathe the most toxic form of capitalism and you have a recipe for the shit show that is the USA. I'm really sorry for all the cool guys over there. There certainly are some fine people, but the majority is completely lost.

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                      You know what would be weird? A president of USA doing anything that trump's doing...

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                        I'm not sure yall get the joke. It's funny cause 13- 17 year old angsty males in the us have unlimited access to military grade weapons. These bitch ass losers, I mean kids, then take these arms, designed to take out isis and sudam and murder a bunch of 5 year olds with them. Do you get it now?? It's hilarious ! ♥️♥️😂 🤩 ♥️ 🔥🔥🔥

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                        This thread is Poe's Law-ing the shit out of me

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                          As I said gun suicides.

                          And guns are a big part of the problem. Science has proven that over and over.

                          Yes America has other problems. For example not accepting that it is not in a healthy enough mental state to own guns.

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                          So suicides in general weren't dramatically affected, only the method differed?

                          Problem in the US is that the genie is out of the bottle now. Start removing guns by force and the people who are already predisposed to shooting up events, are going to be keeping them AND they'l have affirment for their conspiracy theories so they're even more likely to shoot shit up.

                          I agree Americans should never have been allowed to buy guns like this, it’s just not a fixable problem right now. Other things need to be fixed first.

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                            So suicides in general weren't dramatically affected, only the method differed?

                            Problem in the US is that the genie is out of the bottle now. Start removing guns by force and the people who are already predisposed to shooting up events, are going to be keeping them AND they'l have affirment for their conspiracy theories so they're even more likely to shoot shit up.

                            I agree Americans should never have been allowed to buy guns like this, it’s just not a fixable problem right now. Other things need to be fixed first.

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                            On that we agree.

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                              "Expat" is my favourite dog whistle. Because "migrant" is only used for brown people, or other undesirable minorities for racists.

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                              She has "MAGA" in her display name. Why listen for dogwhistles when there's a red alert siren?

                              BTW I had several teachers that described themselves as expats from the UK or US, and they were alright.

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                                Emigrant. That's the kind of migrant who leaves a country. They'd be an immigrant in their new country.

                                But, IMO there's a difference with an expat. An expat is often someone who isn't moving permanently, and as a result is often not trying to integrate into their new country.

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                                From my observation when living in The Netherlands as an immigrant (from Portugal) sometimes working in companies with lots of foreigners, most of us said of ourselves as being "immigrants", except Americans and Brits who often said they were "expats".

                                Curiously, generally the other people from different nations, including the Dutch, would use immigrant rather than expat when refering to the status of the self-proclaimed "expats" in that country - "expat" was very much their label for themselves.

                                The Americans and Brits were there in average for just a long as the rest.

                                I don't think it's really length of stay, at least not directly, I think it's about the immigrant believing or not that their country of origin is a "greater country" than the country they're living in. You can see this for example in places like Spain where British retirees have retired to and live the rest of their lives in their own Little Britain communities calling themselves "expats".

                                This also matched to how some of the British immigrants most pissed of about their homeland (for example, a gay guy who had to move to The Netherlands to marry his partner, as back then that was not allowed in Britain) made a point of using "immigrant" for themselves instead of "expat".

                                It's about national delusions of grandeur, IMHO.

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                                  "Expat" is my favourite dog whistle. Because "migrant" is only used for brown people, or other undesirable minorities for racists.

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                                  From my own experience as an immigrant in The Netherlands and Britain, "expat" is generally used by Americans and Brits when living abroad and pretty much nobody else no matter what their skin tone. I mean, I've seen on or two Ozzies using it but it's way rarer with them and I suspect they were just copying the Brits and Americans. The New Zeelanders I crossed paths with weren't "expats" and neither were the Canadians. Similarly I never heard any of the other Europeans immigrants there refering to themselves as "expats".

                                  I think "expat" is more a thing of people who thing they come from a "great country", as if somehow it's a priviledge for the other country to have them there.

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                                    From my own experience as an immigrant in The Netherlands and Britain, "expat" is generally used by Americans and Brits when living abroad and pretty much nobody else no matter what their skin tone. I mean, I've seen on or two Ozzies using it but it's way rarer with them and I suspect they were just copying the Brits and Americans. The New Zeelanders I crossed paths with weren't "expats" and neither were the Canadians. Similarly I never heard any of the other Europeans immigrants there refering to themselves as "expats".

                                    I think "expat" is more a thing of people who thing they come from a "great country", as if somehow it's a priviledge for the other country to have them there.

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                                    I would have said the two words are different by perspective. An "expat" is talking about where you're from. An "immigrant" is talking about where you are. Also, if you start talking about 2nd generation immigrants, then "expat" can't be used at all, which means it is narrower in scope, too.

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                                      we don't give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show

                                      Erm, wut?

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                                      In America you can bypass gun checks in most checks if you buy your gun from a Gun show.

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                                        This was a troll account. It was a Dutch guy pretending to be MAGA to point out how arrogant Europeans are. He succeed thoroughly

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                                        Is it arrogance when you're just correct?

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                                          Is it arrogance when you're just correct?

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                                          When its all made up? Yes. Yes it is

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