Too soon?
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Christmas came early this year T_T
I needed some catharsis.
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Thanks for the link, I'm basically just sick vibing so thinking is hard.
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His family shouldn't expect empathy, and he wouldn't want his death to distract from full Epstein file disclosure.
Assuming his kids are young enough, I'd feel bad for them. They probably don't understand well enough.
His wife though I don't care for at all, and will likely use his death for profit and to make her kids extremists. One can only hope they question why their father was hated enough to be killed while most people everyday aren't.
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Charlie Kirk died defending the 2nd Amendment
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The law protects free speech, which is the cornerstone of democracy. Answering free speech with violence is the opposite of democracy. Any society based on our allowing murdering people that you disagree with is doomed to fail.
Accountability is also a cornerstone of Democracy, moreso than absolute free speech. Yet there's been a lack of that too.
If anything, unrestricted speech is the seed of authoritarianism, because it allows the segregation of people in society. Hence the paradox of tolerance.
Also, when the laws only enforce one way, the people will ensure justice comes a different way.
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You're right. He wasn't Hitler. He was Julius Streicher.
Charlie Kirk's life ended on September 10, 2025 shot in the neck by an assassin's bullet.
Julius Streicher met his end on October 16, 1946, hanged from the neck in Nuremberg Prison.
I suspect they'll reply with silence like they usually do when proven wrong.
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Speaking as someone with a shitty sociopath 'parent':
They've seen enough its not too much escalation. And now they never have to deal with his bullshit again. The emotions will be complicated, but they won't all be bad.
You're looking for someone to cry for. Cry for tye victims of this toxic shit. The kids he turned into nazis. The people who died on the street. The querrs who suffered abd possibly died in silence. All because this didnt happen sooner.
Cry with joy for those that might live now. If you have that much surplus of tears.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I get what you mean, but there's a chance he was nice to his kids specifically.
I don't think it's likely, but there's a chance they've been fully brainwashed to care. I can't see someone like Kirk being like that though.
I guess time will tell.
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Great foreshadowing too.
Earlier this year, Utah passed House Bill 128 allowing people to conceal carry firearms on university campuses. One of the campuses where conceal carry was now permitted is, of course, Utah Valley University, where Charlie Kirk was visiting today. He was sitting under a tent with the slogan "Prove Me Wrong".
Immediately before the shooting, he was taking questions from the audience:
“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked. Kirk responded, “Too many.”
The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”
“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked.
Then a single shot rang out.
It's unfortunate that he's ineligible for the Darwin Award because he leaves behind 2 very young children and a culture warrior wife, because otherwise he'd be a great nominee for the 2025 Darwin Awards. Normally to get a Darwin Award someone has to directly kill themselves. But, I think in this case we could have make an exception for someone who was a cheerleader for gun rights and was sitting directly under a banner saying "Prove Me Wrong" when he was killed with a gun.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]This was apparently done by a sniper, so not really a concealed carry thing.
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I get what you mean, but there's a chance he was nice to his kids specifically.
I don't think it's likely, but there's a chance they've been fully brainwashed to care. I can't see someone like Kirk being like that though.
I guess time will tell.
My money's on kirk being a pedo. When it comes out it was raping its kids, you're gonna feel silly.
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Honestly solid argument, even though you will likely be disliked. Sorry this is all stressing you out so much.
It just seems to me that we’re doomed as a species to continuously roll backwards into monstrosity and suffering. We’re animals. We really are.
Even the people who want a better and more just world think that it needs to be covered in flames first to get there.
It’s all some big game and the only people who keep losing are the regular people who just want to eat and not go to bed hungry.
When some big war comes, it will be fought by children again while all the so called thinkers on all sides dream of rebuilding in the aftermath, only to end up right back in the same mess all over again.
That’s why I’m so angry. Even the people who study history seem to miss everything between the lines.
Someone will take Charlie Kirk’s place. They always do. The next person will rally people to retaliate and be more extreme on his rhetoric.
When the next big war comes, we need to just take all of the people who advocated for it and throw them into a field and let them have it out. That isn’t ever how it goes though.
Thank you.
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Someone is going to want to retaliate. That’s what the fuck violence brings. Unless you win completely, and the only kind of motherfuckers who win completely are people who exterminate everyone who opposes them.
Did we win completely in 1945?
No, and that’s why we’re still doing this shit.
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Has he tried this tho?
A lifestyle change would have arguably saved him, if he decided to stop living like a human shitstack that is.
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My money's on kirk being a pedo. When it comes out it was raping its kids, you're gonna feel silly.
No, you misunderstood.
I'm saying there's a 98% chance he was terrible to his kids. Just a 2% chance that he wasn't, and a 50% chance that even if he was, his kids liked him (when you've seen a person love someone who beats them up, you'll realize that's unfortunately very possible).
Was he extremely homophobic and/or unusually outspoken against pedos? If he was then yeah, very good chance that he might've done things to them. Hard to keep track of all the shit he did
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It's always interesting when they use expressions like, god-given rights. That's not how it works. A right, in the US, is a privilege that has stronger legal protections. That's all. It's definitely not given by anyone other than the US government.
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When you're about to wear your heart on your sleeve:
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
:::Interesting, looks like it could have been a sniper round. Whoever did this was definitely prepared.
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I have killed someone in my life. I am not telling anyone to kill anyone either. I am pointing out the pure fact that we have never resolved the progress of human right without violence, and you are naive to think we could do it this time. If you don't want to kill people, I understand, it sucks, I know. However, thinking we can move forward without having violence is wrong, it has been happening for a while. The right has been routinely committing acts of terror for years now. They pulled the peace option off the table a long time ago.
We’re just doomed to do this over and over again, aren’t we?
Just an endless cycle of brutality.
As though one day we’ll have just enough bloodshed to have everything we ever wanted?
Get off my nuts with that shit.
Just like every other time it’s happened, some naive kids will go out and die for all the morons who should be old enough to know better.
Oh well, I guess.
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They are not god-given. And they are eroding quickly. Did guns help against that in any way?
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We’re just doomed to do this over and over again, aren’t we?
Just an endless cycle of brutality.
As though one day we’ll have just enough bloodshed to have everything we ever wanted?
Get off my nuts with that shit.
Just like every other time it’s happened, some naive kids will go out and die for all the morons who should be old enough to know better.
Oh well, I guess.
Ok then, tell me, when in a position where the forces that dictate government/law have come to a fundamental, ideological, irreconcilable, impasse, and your life is at stake, what do you do? What do you do when the political momentum is quickly moving into a position where you will die from it, and every check, and balance, has just been ignored? Please tell me your plan.
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He was literally lying about mass shootings when he was shot:
Immediately before the shooting, Kirk was taking questions for an audience member about mass shootings and gun violence.
“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked. Kirk responded, “Too many.”
The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”
“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked
Then a single shot rang out.
Sometimes in the future...
"Mummy, what kind of man was Daddy?"
"Well... His final words were 'Counting or not counting gang violence?'"
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It's always interesting when they use expressions like, god-given rights. That's not how it works. A right, in the US, is a privilege that has stronger legal protections. That's all. It's definitely not given by anyone other than the US government.
What about loads of cash?
