Too soon?
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No, I oppose it generally. You just either don't understand the arguments or are too dogmatic.
I am willing to bet that if Trump had the military kill everyone who was more dark than a specific shade of white and then nuked California. Your opinion would still be that Biden and Trump are the same.
That you have to invent a strawman proves my point. Their actual policies are about on par with each other. One is just closer to the fascism you’re familiar with.
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That you have to invent a strawman proves my point. Their actual policies are about on par with each other. One is just closer to the fascism you’re familiar with.
It's not a straw man. It's a hypothetical. Feel free to answer it when you want.
Also, what do you mean about policies? If Trump didn't change his policies and nuked California, would you then still say that Biden and Trump are equally as bad?
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God given rights?
Didn't the British leave Britain for America to get away from the church and give themselves their own rights?
Not just Britain and no. A lot of very religious people fled there because they were persecuted by differently religious people. That’s why the US constitution also protects freedom of religion.
Though the US constitution doesn’t seem to mention the word "god" somewhere.
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The CIA shot JFK. By accident, Oswald was supposed to just clip JFK's ear.
Can't tell if joke
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Something tells me you don't actually understand the difference between a violent campaign and a nonviolent campaign.
Yes, the goals cannot be violent. That doesn't mean violence cannot be extremely useful when applied tactfully.
Nonviolent resistance movements are more likely to facilitate transitions from autocracy to democracy, improve democratic qualities like civil liberties, transform security forces and judicial systems in rights-respecting directions, and enhance well-being measures such as life expectancy.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2452292924000365
The commonly held belief that most revolutions that have happened in dictatorial regimes were bloody or violent uprisings is not borne out by historical analysis.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_revolution
Empirical evidence strongly favors strategic, organized nonviolent resistance as the most effective path to sustainable political change.
Political assassinations are a tool of desperation. They're effective at creating instability and further violence; counterproductive for achieving lasting political goals. They fail to eliminate the ideas, movements, and structures that person represented.
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Has he tried this tho?
Did he ask chat gpt?
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Gun deaths from the son of a sheriff deputy and care worker, y'know, the typical "homegrowns".
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I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.
He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.
That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.
@surph_ninja @jballs How exactly did Charlie Kirk "terrorize" anyone? It was just words, dude! Dramatic much? Charlie Kirk engaged in dialogue. He welcomed conversation, even when he disagreed. He was killed because he called out the lunacy of our culture.
I feel like I am living in the story of The Emperors New Clothes and the people who actually call out the stupidity are being made fun of...and killed now. You need to get a grip on reality.
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The man lived and died by his words.
@mechoman444 @jballs Liberals do not understand integrity. So many are laughing because he died by one of the very rights he fought to preserve. The truth is, I don't think Charlie would change his stance on the 2nd Amendment today, if we could ask him.
What he said was true. You drive cars and there are accidents and intentional homicides regularly. Why aren't you fighting to get cars off the streets? Kids die from alcohol poisoning. Let's get rid of alcohol. Use your brains, people. #liberal
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God given rights?
Didn't the British leave Britain for America to get away from the church and give themselves their own rights?
Jesus famously turned wine into an M-16.
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@mechoman444 @jballs Liberals do not understand integrity. So many are laughing because he died by one of the very rights he fought to preserve. The truth is, I don't think Charlie would change his stance on the 2nd Amendment today, if we could ask him.
What he said was true. You drive cars and there are accidents and intentional homicides regularly. Why aren't you fighting to get cars off the streets? Kids die from alcohol poisoning. Let's get rid of alcohol. Use your brains, people. #liberal
Lol! Fantastic. This is wonderful thank you so much for commenting.
So the big argument is cars and alcohol? Brilliant. Because when was the last time someone walked into a classroom holding a Toyota Corolla in one hand and a bottle of vodka in the other?
Cars exist to get people from point A to point B. Alcohol exists to drink. Guns exist to kill. That is the design. Pretending they are all the same is a false equivalence.
We also happen to lead the world in school shootings and active shooters. Canada, which looks a whole lot like us culturally and legally, manages fewer gun deaths per capita. Maybe the problem is not cars or booze. Maybe the problem is metal health. Because guns at the end of the day are just tools used by humans.
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@surph_ninja @jballs How exactly did Charlie Kirk "terrorize" anyone? It was just words, dude! Dramatic much? Charlie Kirk engaged in dialogue. He welcomed conversation, even when he disagreed. He was killed because he called out the lunacy of our culture.
I feel like I am living in the story of The Emperors New Clothes and the people who actually call out the stupidity are being made fun of...and killed now. You need to get a grip on reality.
He created a literal hitlist of professors, and convinced people that violence against trans people was a moral imperative.
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It's not a straw man. It's a hypothetical. Feel free to answer it when you want.
Also, what do you mean about policies? If Trump didn't change his policies and nuked California, would you then still say that Biden and Trump are equally as bad?
That’s what a strawman is, dumbass.
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He created a literal hitlist of professors, and convinced people that violence against trans people was a moral imperative.
@surph_ninja a hitlist? He may have named people he felt were contributing to the rot of this nation, but you show me proof that he ever called for a hit or for people to do anything more than speak against the issues.
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Lol! Fantastic. This is wonderful thank you so much for commenting.
So the big argument is cars and alcohol? Brilliant. Because when was the last time someone walked into a classroom holding a Toyota Corolla in one hand and a bottle of vodka in the other?
Cars exist to get people from point A to point B. Alcohol exists to drink. Guns exist to kill. That is the design. Pretending they are all the same is a false equivalence.
We also happen to lead the world in school shootings and active shooters. Canada, which looks a whole lot like us culturally and legally, manages fewer gun deaths per capita. Maybe the problem is not cars or booze. Maybe the problem is metal health. Because guns at the end of the day are just tools used by humans.
@mechoman444 Guns do more than kill. They are used for sport as well. But I would agree that killing is their main purpose. They are simply tools. People use all manner of tools to kill people. I would rather address the hatred and desire to kill. Then the tools would not be used.
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@surph_ninja a hitlist? He may have named people he felt were contributing to the rot of this nation, but you show me proof that he ever called for a hit or for people to do anything more than speak against the issues.
Read the testimonials of the experiences of people he put on his Professor Watchlist.
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Read the testimonials of the experiences of people he put on his Professor Watchlist.
@surph_ninja The purpose of https://www.professorwatchlist.org/ was simply to "expose and document college professors who discriminate against conservative students and advance leftist propaganda in the classroom." You have no proof that he ever pushed followers to do anything vile or hateful to those professors.
Even if his followers did, that doesn't mean he condoned it. Show us proof. Less talk, more evidence. #lies #propaganda #turningpointusa #charliekirk
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@surph_ninja The purpose of https://www.professorwatchlist.org/ was simply to "expose and document college professors who discriminate against conservative students and advance leftist propaganda in the classroom." You have no proof that he ever pushed followers to do anything vile or hateful to those professors.
Even if his followers did, that doesn't mean he condoned it. Show us proof. Less talk, more evidence. #lies #propaganda #turningpointusa #charliekirk
Nah. He’s dead now. He won’t hurt anyone again. No need to prove it anymore, now that the trash has been taken out. Good riddance.
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All of you make me sick the left is just as toxic #provemewrong
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RIP Charlie Kirk.
You were a good Christian man with moral principles with a wife and 2 kids. You were killed by a lunatic while you were exercising your freedom of speech, you were persecuted by your opponents. Some may say that's a form of fascism, the same party that accused you of being.
The violent rhetoric of the left influenced some weak minded soul to take you from your children, and also taken your quotes out of context.
Charlie Kirk never robbed a pregnant woman at gun point, or robbed a bank, or killed a woman on a train, but instead encouraged open conversation between all parties so they could understand each other in a meaningful way.
May you rest in peace, and may your naysayers see the evil in their ways and repent. They may mock you because they're unable to refute your debates, but they will reap what they sow.
RIP Charlie Kirk
Good luck talking to these guys there like 2 year olds that can't have a Adult discussion.
They're philosophically and morally in mature children.
