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  • E [email protected]

    Av1 is better than h256 by quite a bit in many cases. Unfortunately, support is still very spotty if you're running anything other than a home theater pc. But I'm moving to Av1/opus since, I'm actively de-googling/droiding. And moving to htpc.

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    AV1 content is rather rare and encoding even 1080p content (from BD) is pretty slow unless you have a 9985WX Threadripper Pro (which costs over $11 K retail where I live).

    And AV1 client support (HW decode) is lacking compared to HEVC/x265.

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      Hi, I'm self hosting a jellyfin server and I wondering if anyone could give advice abt my setup. I have an internal 2tb ssd and I'm using a external 2tb ssd. I'm looking to make my setup more cohesive and less of a headache. I want more storage for media but I don't know where to start. I looked online to price compare drives and I saw a 14tb hhd for $160, is this a good price for a hard drive? I also haven't been able to make tdarr work with my gpu so most of my media is probably taking more space than it needs. Any advice would be appreciated!

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      Switch to Stremio (with Torrentio) and never worry about running out of storage space again. Everything is streamed directly to your TV, no downloading necessary. Browse like it's Netflix and just pick something then watch it. Plus there's support for home theater enthusiasts with features like HDR, Dolby Atmos, 4K, etc.

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        Switch to Stremio (with Torrentio) and never worry about running out of storage space again. Everything is streamed directly to your TV, no downloading necessary. Browse like it's Netflix and just pick something then watch it. Plus there's support for home theater enthusiasts with features like HDR, Dolby Atmos, 4K, etc.

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        Doesn’t this encourage consuming without seeding?

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        • P [email protected]

          Switch to Stremio (with Torrentio) and never worry about running out of storage space again. Everything is streamed directly to your TV, no downloading necessary. Browse like it's Netflix and just pick something then watch it. Plus there's support for home theater enthusiasts with features like HDR, Dolby Atmos, 4K, etc.

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          Oh? I've never heard of this. I see there git page here and I installed it easy on my android phone and the add-on torrentio. It there a like docker image or can I host this. I used my server to provide streams to friends and family but this seems to all in one solution I could forward them the link and have a set up guide on my domain now.

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            Hi, I'm self hosting a jellyfin server and I wondering if anyone could give advice abt my setup. I have an internal 2tb ssd and I'm using a external 2tb ssd. I'm looking to make my setup more cohesive and less of a headache. I want more storage for media but I don't know where to start. I looked online to price compare drives and I saw a 14tb hhd for $160, is this a good price for a hard drive? I also haven't been able to make tdarr work with my gpu so most of my media is probably taking more space than it needs. Any advice would be appreciated!

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            14TB for $160 seems insanely low/good price, even for refurbished?

            Or where do you get prices like that?! (I'm in the EU BTW).

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              14TB for $160 seems insanely low/good price, even for refurbished?

              Or where do you get prices like that?! (I'm in the EU BTW).

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              I got mine from https://serverpartdeals.com/ that was before Trump 2.0, but it appears prices to EU are still ok. Shipping was brilliant. They appear to have 14TB for about 180 USD.

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              • alphane_moon@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                AV1 content is rather rare and encoding even 1080p content (from BD) is pretty slow unless you have a 9985WX Threadripper Pro (which costs over $11 K retail where I live).

                And AV1 client support (HW decode) is lacking compared to HEVC/x265.

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                I already mentioned client support. Stating that I was degoogling my clients and moving to htpc so codec support was largely a non issue in my particular case.

                TBF, if you're just downloading content. Even h265 can be rare still depending. Release groups sloooooooooowly change formats and workflows. And even then. Older content rarely gets new encodes.

                Encoding these days is simple. I can do HQ 2 pass encodes of my DVD on a 6th gen i7 in just a little longer than it takes to watch. Yes 1080p can take over 3-4 hours for a movie. But I have a couple of old ewaste systems I can let churn overnight. I'm not concerned about real time re-encoding. I'm using av1 for quality and space saving.

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                  14TB for $160 seems insanely low/good price, even for refurbished?

                  Or where do you get prices like that?! (I'm in the EU BTW).

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                  I found a site called diskprices.com and found reasonable priced per tb value hard drives

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                    Switch to Stremio (with Torrentio) and never worry about running out of storage space again. Everything is streamed directly to your TV, no downloading necessary. Browse like it's Netflix and just pick something then watch it. Plus there's support for home theater enthusiasts with features like HDR, Dolby Atmos, 4K, etc.

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                    But streaming is downloading. Sure, it's not saved to the disk, but...

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                    • zonenranslite@feddit.orgZ [email protected]

                      Please note the HDD technology. Please only use CMR HDDs in servers.

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                      HDD* (hard disk drive)

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                        Hi, I'm self hosting a jellyfin server and I wondering if anyone could give advice abt my setup. I have an internal 2tb ssd and I'm using a external 2tb ssd. I'm looking to make my setup more cohesive and less of a headache. I want more storage for media but I don't know where to start. I looked online to price compare drives and I saw a 14tb hhd for $160, is this a good price for a hard drive? I also haven't been able to make tdarr work with my gpu so most of my media is probably taking more space than it needs. Any advice would be appreciated!

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                        Tip, look at second hand sites/fb marketplace (i know 😒) you can find great deals.

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                          HDD* (hard disk drive)

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                          Oh, sorry.

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                            Tip, look at second hand sites/fb marketplace (i know 😒) you can find great deals.

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                            Check drive age/hours though, I forgot to and bought a 60K hour drive that failed almost immediately.

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                            • A [email protected]

                              Separating your services from your storage makes things a lot easier in my opinion.
                              Setup one machine as a NAS and have that manage your (preferably redundant and backuped if storing personal photos or other unique data) storage, then share it to the rest of your selfhosting over nfs and smb.
                              You could either go for a prebuilt NAS like Ugreen NASync DXP2800 or build your own m-itx with a Jonsbo N2 case and an N100 motherboard or whatever you're comfortable with.

                              Your jellyfin server then accesses the media libraries with a simple mount (/mnt/media). Same with your tdarr server and tdarr nodes.
                              It's much easier to experiment and reinstall services when you have your storage separated from them.

                              I can't buy a 14tb hdd for that price here in Sweden, but I have no idea about your local prices. Is it new or refurb?

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                              Out of curiosity, do yoy know how Jellyfin handles network failures with mounted network drives?

                              I had a navidrome server where once my network machine failed to start properly, the entire database was deleted because it looked to the server like I deleted all of my files. I luckily had my favorites cached on my phone client and was able to restore most of my playlists from there but it was still an incredibly annoying thing to go through. I have since turned off automatic scanning of files for that service since that seemed like the only way to prevent this happening again

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                                Hi, I'm self hosting a jellyfin server and I wondering if anyone could give advice abt my setup. I have an internal 2tb ssd and I'm using a external 2tb ssd. I'm looking to make my setup more cohesive and less of a headache. I want more storage for media but I don't know where to start. I looked online to price compare drives and I saw a 14tb hhd for $160, is this a good price for a hard drive? I also haven't been able to make tdarr work with my gpu so most of my media is probably taking more space than it needs. Any advice would be appreciated!

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                                I think its ok to buy cheap memory but check it with f3 first.

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                                • hybridsarcasm@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                                  Doesn’t this encourage consuming without seeding?

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                                  You at least seed while watching the movie.

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                                  • zonenranslite@feddit.orgZ [email protected]

                                    Please note the HDD technology. Please only use CMR HDDs in servers.

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                                    Isnt that only really necessary if using RAID?

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                                    • meldrik@lemmy.wtfM [email protected]

                                      Isnt that only really necessary if using RAID?

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                                      No, SMR HDDs are not made for continuous operation.

                                      https://www.heise.de/en/news/Risk-of-Defect-Data-Recovery-Specialists-Advise-Backups-of-Older-WD-Hard-Drives-10800960.html

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                                      • ki9@lemmy.gf4.pwK [email protected]

                                        I think its ok to buy cheap memory but check it with f3 first.

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                                        Hmm, didn't know about this... I was just using dd to see if the size was about right.

                                        Thanks

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          Av1 is better than h256 by quite a bit in many cases. Unfortunately, support is still very spotty if you're running anything other than a home theater pc. But I'm moving to Av1/opus since, I'm actively de-googling/droiding. And moving to htpc.

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                                          Gonna start down a rabbit hole here - but are there any good rf remotes for htpc? I've been using Nvidia shield devices for the better part of what feels like a decade now and they're awesome - with the exception of lacking hardware av1 decode.

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