Don't fix the problem just change the parameters
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Teacher here.
I'm pretty certain that the only place where my students ever encounter an analog clock is at school.
What the actual fuck? Are you not using wrist watches at all at whatever US hole you are a teacher at? Because most of these are analogue.
Not currently teaching in a "US hole." I've been teaching in South America for 5 years and I have never noticed an analog clock in a public place here.
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That might actually be a perfect example of mental gymnastics. What a strange justification of just liking something.
I mean, not really. He knows analog clocks well enough that the hand position just inherently means something to him. Afternoon, and the little hand is almost halfway? Work day done! Just by position.
Somewhat analagous: I know how far a meter and a kilometer are, in principle, but when I consider distances I more intuitively understand them in feet and miles. It's what I'm used to.
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It took me until age 15 to become comfortable reading analog clocks and confident knowing which way is left and right.
Hey cut me some slack, left/right gets confusing sometimes because of mirrors & facing people).
But I think learning how to tell time on an analog clock is an important skill because it broadens the mind regarding mechanics & mathematics, thereby developing more synapses in our brains & logic & mental computational skills.
I'm old af and I still have to think about it
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24h analog clocks exist but they are pretty useless because you lose angular resolution. So unless you are a vampire that's up 24/7 a 12 hour wall clock has better angular resolution than a clock with 33% wasted area you'll never use/see because you are asleep
what's angular resolution now
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What was scribbled out of this screenshot with black lines, and why was it scribbled out?
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I remember getting a compliment more then once jn school. I was good t talong what i learned in once class and applying it to another
wait analog is outdated?? what do you mean?? What else do people wear on their wrist?? some dystopian world your living in
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Analogue clocks are a great example of kids having to understand a concept and apply it. And it's simple enough that anyone can learn it.
I often see examples where children are required to memorize a set solution, instead of showing understanding and reaching the solutions themselves.
These clocks are somewhat dated, but removing them just feels like another symptom of a failing educational system.
wait analog is outdated?? what do you mean?? What else do people wear on their wrist?? some dystopian world your living in
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which I can tell simply by looking outside
In a snow storm?
Not during the storm maybe idk it's been a while since I was in a snow storm. but afterwards before I get power back.
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It took me until age 15 to become comfortable reading analog clocks and confident knowing which way is left and right.
Hey cut me some slack, left/right gets confusing sometimes because of mirrors & facing people).
But I think learning how to tell time on an analog clock is an important skill because it broadens the mind regarding mechanics & mathematics, thereby developing more synapses in our brains & logic & mental computational skills.
Once I figured out what hand I write with, it was all easy street from there. I used to tell myself āI write with my right handā
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No one's asking the real question... Is that background image AI?
Nevermind that this was from 2018.
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What's interesting about this is that we are not taught how to take notes. People used to have classes that taught what is actually a complicated skill. I have gone through enough schooling that my note taking just happens without much thought, but it took me real effort to get there.
and I yet I had a class in note taking and then years latter got points taken off because I didn't take like that teacher wanted
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I hope you are not serious. If the shadow (hand) is on two, it's two o'clock. If it's on three, it's three o'clock. If it's exactly between those two ticks it's half past two. There isn't even anything to learn (at least when they were invented). That's exactly how the hour hand on a clock works.
(Note: Today it would be a bit more complicated if you want wall-clock-time because the sun dial always tells local solar time and if you want the time in your time zone you would have to adjust for DST and use the equation of time for some smaller corrections)
wrote last edited by [email protected]You don't know how to read one - you've forgotten to calibrate it.
If you don't do that before use, it's measurements are meaningless. Correcting for DST and dates and other minor aspects of how time is handled in the modern era is important (blech screw DST), but this issue was present even in the roman era and is why sundials have movable faces. Premodern observatories (eg. stonehenge or the observatories at pisac) have references to correct the measurements for things like change in solar position and the progression towards the equinox for the same reason.
I don't think we should get rid of analog clocks, I just wanted to point out that your example here isn't a very good one to use.
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Digitals are way easier to read.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You can teach three year olds to read analog clocks (see my other post) but I've yet so see three year olds reading and understanding digital clocks. I get the feeling in this thread that everybody that has issues with analog clocks is from the US and that might come from the fact that the US (at least it seems based on this thread) has almost no exposure to analog clocks.
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Devolving to linguistic prescriptivism just proves you don't have an argument anymore lol
No, it shows that people who cannot read the clock are also unable to write.
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what's angular resolution now
It's about how far the hand moves in a given time. On a normal 12h circle analog clock the hand moves 30Ā° per hour. On a 24h analog clock that's halfed to 15Ā° per hour.
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You don't know how to read one - you've forgotten to calibrate it.
If you don't do that before use, it's measurements are meaningless. Correcting for DST and dates and other minor aspects of how time is handled in the modern era is important (blech screw DST), but this issue was present even in the roman era and is why sundials have movable faces. Premodern observatories (eg. stonehenge or the observatories at pisac) have references to correct the measurements for things like change in solar position and the progression towards the equinox for the same reason.
I don't think we should get rid of analog clocks, I just wanted to point out that your example here isn't a very good one to use.
wrote last edited by [email protected]What is progression towards the equinoxes? You mean precession of the equinoxes? That takes millennia and is very much negligible when reading sun dials on a day to day basis, or even year to year basis.
The orbital motions of the objects in our solar system is pretty messy and you are right that there goes more into designing accurate sun dials than just a stick in the ground, but I'd still argue that that's not part of "reading a sun dial" - which was the question I answered.
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What was scribbled out of this screenshot with black lines, and why was it scribbled out?
The part in the middle is a screenshot of some social media site and the blacked out parts are navigation bread crums, comment counts. The answer below has a blacked out user name, profile picture, etc.
I have no idea why they would remove UI elements from a screenshot.
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No one's asking the real question... Is that background image AI?
Nevermind that this was from 2018.
Probably because it doesn't look much like AI. At least today. In a few years we probably won't have to ask that question because they would be practically indistinguishable.
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What is progression towards the equinoxes? You mean precession of the equinoxes? That takes millennia and is very much negligible when reading sun dials on a day to day basis, or even year to year basis.
The orbital motions of the objects in our solar system is pretty messy and you are right that there goes more into designing accurate sun dials than just a stick in the ground, but I'd still argue that that's not part of "reading a sun dial" - which was the question I answered.
wrote last edited by [email protected]No, I mean the progression towards the equinoxes - historically the equinoxes were a common way to demark calendar dates, and as a result they're a useful reference point. Not universal, of course, but still frequently used enough to be useful when discussing this topic.
I get you're arguing because, well, this is the internet and I contradicted you. That's how it works, our egos are too tied up in our comments alone and it's too easy to read any tone into a comment that we'd like. We get defensive, our wounded egos make things heated. So in that spirit, let me be explicit that I'm not trying to be rude to you when I say this: You're oversimplifying the metaphor to make your point.
For example: I've been sitting around for a full day, but the damn clock says only twelve minutes have gone by.
You adjust a sundial in the morning every day, and then can read it from there (assuming it hasn't been jostled) - but you still have to be aware of the rules and conventions of the system, and work within it's boundaries. If we arbitrarily dismiss critical parts of it's operation, there will be no meaning in anything we have to say. The territory of things like "clocks don't measure time, they measure circles and everything we derive from them is thence wild and baseless speculation"; literally true and I can defend that position until we both die of carefully-measured old age, but reduced to the point that it's completely meaningless.
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not really. It's faster while writing it sometimes. But if you factor in the time it takes to try reading it a year later you end up with a net loss
I disagree. I grew up in the 80s and 90s, and I had to read cursive all the time, since my boomer parents used it constantly.
When you read it regularly, it doesn't take any longer to read than block letters.I never used cursive because I never got into enough of a habit of using it before technology made the skillset unnecessary. I think I write down one thing a month? if that? I use computers the rest of the time, whether it's the small rectangle that fits in my pocket, the larger folding rectangle that goes in my backpack, or the larger cube like one that sits under my desk at home.... I use computers about 1000x more than a pen.
That doesn't change the fact that I can look at cursive and know what it says as instantly as if it were typed text. Me not being able to, or simply not writing cursive is entirely a me problem.
