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ADVICE: Running out of storage

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  • A [email protected]

    Separating your services from your storage makes things a lot easier in my opinion.
    Setup one machine as a NAS and have that manage your (preferably redundant and backuped if storing personal photos or other unique data) storage, then share it to the rest of your selfhosting over nfs and smb.
    You could either go for a prebuilt NAS like Ugreen NASync DXP2800 or build your own m-itx with a Jonsbo N2 case and an N100 motherboard or whatever you're comfortable with.

    Your jellyfin server then accesses the media libraries with a simple mount (/mnt/media). Same with your tdarr server and tdarr nodes.
    It's much easier to experiment and reinstall services when you have your storage separated from them.

    I can't buy a 14tb hdd for that price here in Sweden, but I have no idea about your local prices. Is it new or refurb?

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    Out of curiosity, do yoy know how Jellyfin handles network failures with mounted network drives?

    I had a navidrome server where once my network machine failed to start properly, the entire database was deleted because it looked to the server like I deleted all of my files. I luckily had my favorites cached on my phone client and was able to restore most of my playlists from there but it was still an incredibly annoying thing to go through. I have since turned off automatic scanning of files for that service since that seemed like the only way to prevent this happening again

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      Hi, I'm self hosting a jellyfin server and I wondering if anyone could give advice abt my setup. I have an internal 2tb ssd and I'm using a external 2tb ssd. I'm looking to make my setup more cohesive and less of a headache. I want more storage for media but I don't know where to start. I looked online to price compare drives and I saw a 14tb hhd for $160, is this a good price for a hard drive? I also haven't been able to make tdarr work with my gpu so most of my media is probably taking more space than it needs. Any advice would be appreciated!

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      I think its ok to buy cheap memory but check it with f3 first.

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      • hybridsarcasm@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

        Doesn’t this encourage consuming without seeding?

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        You at least seed while watching the movie.

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        • zonenranslite@feddit.orgZ [email protected]

          Please note the HDD technology. Please only use CMR HDDs in servers.

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          Isnt that only really necessary if using RAID?

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            Isnt that only really necessary if using RAID?

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            No, SMR HDDs are not made for continuous operation.

            https://www.heise.de/en/news/Risk-of-Defect-Data-Recovery-Specialists-Advise-Backups-of-Older-WD-Hard-Drives-10800960.html

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              I think its ok to buy cheap memory but check it with f3 first.

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              Hmm, didn't know about this... I was just using dd to see if the size was about right.

              Thanks

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              • E [email protected]

                Av1 is better than h256 by quite a bit in many cases. Unfortunately, support is still very spotty if you're running anything other than a home theater pc. But I'm moving to Av1/opus since, I'm actively de-googling/droiding. And moving to htpc.

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                Gonna start down a rabbit hole here - but are there any good rf remotes for htpc? I've been using Nvidia shield devices for the better part of what feels like a decade now and they're awesome - with the exception of lacking hardware av1 decode.

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                  Gonna start down a rabbit hole here - but are there any good rf remotes for htpc? I've been using Nvidia shield devices for the better part of what feels like a decade now and they're awesome - with the exception of lacking hardware av1 decode.

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                  Shield user since 2015. Literally just started down this myself. Got this yesterday but was too wiped out last night to set it up. Figured if I can spend less than a hundred dollars For a fourth generation i7 which is capable of decoding AV1. But I can't buy a set top box that will do the same for even close to $100. It was worth a try.

                  The downside is you lose some power efficiency having a full-blown PC. The upside is configurability and usability. The shield was decent for emulation, but it still can't compete with a full-blown PC. The one other small negative is casting. I'm not aware currently of any great method of casting media to a PC. There's probably something that exists. I just don't know of it yet. But I plan to evaluate a few immutable Linux distributions, including Bazite. With waydroid on top for any Android applications, I find that I just can't get along without yet.

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                    Oh? I've never heard of this. I see there git page here and I installed it easy on my android phone and the add-on torrentio. It there a like docker image or can I host this. I used my server to provide streams to friends and family but this seems to all in one solution I could forward them the link and have a set up guide on my domain now.

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                    I think the greatest advantage of this is to probably watch a few episodes of show before committing to downloading it especially long series or quick movies. Does everyone in the world need backups of movies and TV shows? I know seeding is an important factor to passing media along but it also feels like hoarding and I'm not a hoarder. It feels like a fine line to cross

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                    • M [email protected]

                      I got mine from https://serverpartdeals.com/ that was before Trump 2.0, but it appears prices to EU are still ok. Shipping was brilliant. They appear to have 14TB for about 180 USD.

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                      1/2 to 3/4 of my drives are from server parts deals, only had one of them give me issues and I think the issue was the SATA cable I had. I have several servers.

                      They are used drives, but I only paid about $100-125 each. Keep watching their site and things go in and out of stock all the time. I wait until they have a good price.

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                        Out of curiosity, do yoy know how Jellyfin handles network failures with mounted network drives?

                        I had a navidrome server where once my network machine failed to start properly, the entire database was deleted because it looked to the server like I deleted all of my files. I luckily had my favorites cached on my phone client and was able to restore most of my playlists from there but it was still an incredibly annoying thing to go through. I have since turned off automatic scanning of files for that service since that seemed like the only way to prevent this happening again

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                        Just like navidrome it seems like Jellyfin reacts to failed mounts by emptying libraries.
                        https://forum.jellyfin.org/t-solved-network-not-mounted-before-jellyfin-starts

                        With version 10.11.0 they offer a built in backup system for db/metadata/subtitles though so once access is restored it's easy to restore any metadata changes you've done to your library. (As long as you got a backup since before that is)
                        https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/administration/backup-and-restore/#create-a-backup

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