DeepSeek just proved Lina Khan right

[return2ozma@lemmy.world]

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[hobbes_dent@lemmy.world]

The social contract struck between the U.S. government and Silicon Valley—which the American people became an involuntary party to—was straightforward: We will let a handful of tech bros become unfathomably wealthy and in exchange they will build a tech industry that keeps America globally dominant. Instead, the tech bros broke the bargain. They took the money, but instead of continuing to innovate and compete, built monopolies to keep out competition—even getting the help of the U.S. national security state to block Chinese access to our tech. But they couldn’t keep out of the competition forever. Lina Khan was right. And now here we are.

[thereturnofpeb@reddthat.com]

Regardless how this plays out that was a very satisfying article to read and the quoted section above a big part of that.

also I haven't made any investment of my time or money in A.I. so my personal smug-o-meter is needle buried high-side right now.

[supersynthia@lemmy.world]

Im glad DeepSeek open sourced their model. Even if the goal was to destabilize US companies, I think it's a blessing the tools can go to anyone with a "powerful enough" computer.

And to be really honest, I don't like what the tech companies have done with AI in such a short amount of time. I'm glad they are getting the piss beaten out of them. All these AI companies will do whatever it takes to destroy human labor pools so they can absorb a fraction of our wages.

The sad part is, they are after a fraction of a wage that is already undervalued. We are all struggling because of corporate greed anyway.

[sunzu2@thebrainbin.org]

Im glad DeepSeek open sourced their model. Even if the goal was to destabilize US companies,

back in my day this was called a "free market", now we have start ups from china doing it to the US private capital.

[simplejack@lemmy.world]

Fuck the big tech companies and all, but I don’t buy the argument that there is no competition in the US. If you believe that, you’re not paying attention to the space. There are a fuckload of weird models being developed in the US. Some by big players, and some by smaller companies.

IMHO, this is the same thing that happens with every new big advancement. PCs, internet, mobile, etc. People invest a shit load of money in the early players, then a ton of those early investments don’t pan out.

And often times, the people that really stand out are the smaller disrupters or the companies that come in a little later.

[awistfulnihilist@lemmy.world]

Dropsite is great and Ryan Grim is a treasure.

[donkter@lemmy.world]

Keeping your money out of the AI grift was a good idea but doesn't deep seek imply that powerful AI is coming even faster and cheaper than what was already being promised?

[hegar@fedia.io]

Capitalism can't innovate.

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

And if China increasingly becomes the place to go work if you’re an ambitious researcher or developer, it’s not hard to see where that leads.

Is that a thing? I know China's research sector is large and growing, but I never heard of it attracting foreigners.

“The accusations/obsessions over DeepSeek using H100 sound like a rich kids team got outplayed by a poor kids team, who weren't even allowed shoes,” tweeted Jen Zhu, an AI investor, “and now the rich kids are demanding an investigation into whether shoes were used instead of training harder to improve themselves.”

This is amazing.

[drusas@fedia.io]

It is very much not a thing. At least not for American tech workers.

[noneofurbusiness@fedia.io]

*Late stage capitalism can't innovate. The industrial revolution and internet revolution, among others, were fueled by Western capitalists. Adopting capitalism early on is about 75% of the reason the West is at the top of the modern world order.

[independantiste@sh.itjust.works]

New soyjack unlocked?

[allero@lemmy.today]

Is that a thing?

Yes. It's not common for Americans to come to China, but many in other parts of the world do. Currently living in Russia, I personally know a few folks, primarily from IT sector, moving there for new opportunities.

[panarab@lemm.ee]

Protectionism [and Galapagosization] killed the Japanese smartphone industry.

[panarab@lemm.ee]

Is that a thing? I know China’s research sector is large and growing, but I never heard of it attracting foreigners.

They offer very competitive salaries, if I knew Chinese and was 10-15 years younger I would have considered it.

[alexwiwa@lemmy.ml]

I am feeling dangerously smug

[panarab@lemm.ee]

Even if the goal was to destabilize US companies

Good ol' yellow perilism

[neonachtwaechter@lemmy.world]

they will build a tech industry that keeps America globally dominant.

I don't buy it.

At least this Altmann guy has already made it clear that he personally wants to be the ruler of the world.

[mudman@fedia.io]

Man, the hysterical, unhinged US market just has no chill.

Someone came up with a better chatbot-- "OMG, superintelligence is here and is inevitable, all hail our robot overlords and their oligarch creators!"

Somebody outside the US had an idea to train a chatbot for cheaper-- "OMG, US tech is doomed, they have no recourse against this and all the hardware is now worthless!"

Maybe if the markets weren't constantly freaking the hell out about any semblance of technological innovation in search for the next Google or Apple they woldn't have to deflate like a balloon each time reality sets in.