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  • C [email protected]

    So capitalism.

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    Yes, we get to prioritize USA industries vs China's. I'm down for that.

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      I'm also pretty sure their security / safety standards are pure ass. I barely trust our automakers, I sure as shit don't trust the fucking CCP

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      I live in Taiwan and we call those China made cars tofu cars. Their domestic cars are terrible. So many of them are going out of business because the the CCP lowered down the subsidies.

      I won't be caught dead in one.

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        We all know what’s going to happen, Elon just going to get a “government contract”, where he can make it so that teslas will be the main vehicle manufacturer for government.

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          Teslas are actually pretty good from what I've seen.

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          There is a Tesla New Buyers delivery checklist you can find online that was written by a group of Tesla enthusiasts. Just a few years ago one of the items on the checklist was “Make sure you can put the car in Park (and that it stays parked)”. (Ref: https://driveteslacanada.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Tesla-Model-3-Delivery-Checklist.pdf).

          I’m not away of any other car where this was something people had to check before delivery — apparently it was a bit of a common problem for a time. That seems absolutely crazy to me, and a major failure of QA as it poses a significant safety hazard.

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          • N [email protected]

            German TUV Reliability Report

            Those numbers are very misleading, as it includes rust on the brakes.

            EVs don't use their brakes as often due to regen, and vehicles with one pedal driving where you can come to a complete stop without using the brakes, use it even less.

            A large portion of these failures are from some rust appearing from lack of using the brakes. Using the brakes would clear the rust, but it's a fail if it's there when you take it in.

            That's not to say there aren't other problems, but it's not as bad as the 14.7% makes it look.

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            Breaks are kinda important.

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              Breaks are kinda important.

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              Sure, but a little rust because they weren't used isn't a problem, comes off when you use them, but is an instant fail. The brakes are not damaged or broken.

              All brakes rust when not used. If you drove around in the rain today, then didn't drive for a few days, you'll probably have a little rust on your brakes. You go for a drive and then it's gone.

              If you take your car in for a pre-inspection report, and they see some rust on the brakes, they will tell you to drive it around a bit using the brakes a lot before taking it in to be inspected.

              it's not an actual problem.

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                Ironically, the EV’s suck and are for commies crowd are now lauding Tesla as the best vehicle on the market

                Musk aside, Tesla cars have always been pretty shoddy

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                  I would like a Chinese EV, but the capitalists are enforcing protectionism.

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                  You can fellate Winnie the Pooh on your own time.

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                    Remember 2015? A Tesla parked in your driveway told your neighbours that you valued innovation, that you possessed an environmental conscience, that you had a stake in the future of the planet. The cars weren't perfect, but they meant something. They represented hope - for clean energy, EVs, and a world beyond fossil fuels.

                    This was me years go. I new climate change was real and an imminent threat. I wanted to vote with my wallet for a cleaner future. I also wanted to strike a blow against the National Automotive Dealers Association for their regressive practices that hurt consumers and drive prices for cars higher for everyone. Buying a Tesla did those things. I charge the car on sunlight from my house. I was proud to be doing something rather than just talking about needs for changes against climate change.

                    Musk doesn't get any of my money from this car. I don't pay for any of the Tesla monthly services. I'm don't want to be seen driving with a Tesla logo on the car. I'm ashamed that my good intentions funded a fascist.

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                    This is me too. I have two of them bought and paid for and people just don't get it: I went all in on this and you can just sell for 15% of purchase price, I still have mobility needs. More to the point my swasticar still has access to the best charging network on the market and even if I COULD just sell, it's not cut and dry. It's easy to shit on Tesla, but it's still the best offering in the EV market for long range driving. And even if it was not, like fuck me I can't time travel. Most people who flame have no idea what the actual hell they are talking about.

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                    • ryan213@lemmy.caR [email protected]

                      Don't give him any ideas!

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                      I'm sure he already calls his lawyers every day at 3 AM while half blitzed on K to pitch exactly that

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                        Starship was supposed to be doing trips to mars each year by last year.

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                        And he wonders why NASA turned him down for bringing those astronauts back...

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                          Isn't a few cop-shops using Tesla cars now already?

                          I worry how the cars hold up to aggressive driving, after seeing how the truck was pwned so badly by whistlinDiesel .

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                          And he actually likes Tesla

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                            Like I’ve said. The first one was definitely a WAVE. But as that doesn’t suit the anti-right narrative then I’ll let you keep believing you’re right.

                            Goodbye.

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                            The first one was definitely a WAVE.

                            You're lying for a nazi.

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                              2%

                              It's called inflation.

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                              Pretty sure you're focusing on the wrong number out of the two

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                                You can fellate Winnie the Pooh on your own time.

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                                Nothing quite says "American Capitalist bootlicker" more than proudly paying more for an inferior product while complaining that it's the Communists fault.

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                                  I would too, but you have to understand why the USA is blocking these cars from coming in. The cost of these cheap EVs are not based off of supply and demand. Its not even this cheap because of effectiveness or efficiencies. Its from the CCP subsidies. The CCP wants to dump on the competition in efforts to kill off anyone making a car, then start jacking up the price after they have market share.

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                                  My dude the US subsidizes the shit out of its electric car industry. When someone brings up "supply and demand" and just tries to pretend that the economy is exactly what they learned in their econ101 class.

                                  They are doing the tarrifs on Chinese EVS because (1) they can't compete on price and (2) the Chinese EVS are just a superior product.

                                  You're right on China though. They are just doing exactly what the US has done for decades. It's just that the US doesn't like having to actually compete with another country. So instead of actually making better and cheaper cars they instead just decide to tell the American people "nah, looks like you're just being a shit Tesla"

                                  The US loves to say "free market" but notice how they don't allow a free market to force their industry to actually innovate and compete.

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                                    Ironically, the EV’s suck and are for commies crowd are now lauding Tesla as the best vehicle on the market

                                    Musk aside, Tesla cars have always been pretty shoddy

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                                    It's not ironic necessarily. It's more the morons that hated EVs and Musk hated them because Trump did. Now that Trump loves them, they love them.

                                    They're just weak-minded easily manipulated sheep who hurt when they have to think for themselves and they'd rather be told what to think.

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                                      My dude the US subsidizes the shit out of its electric car industry. When someone brings up "supply and demand" and just tries to pretend that the economy is exactly what they learned in their econ101 class.

                                      They are doing the tarrifs on Chinese EVS because (1) they can't compete on price and (2) the Chinese EVS are just a superior product.

                                      You're right on China though. They are just doing exactly what the US has done for decades. It's just that the US doesn't like having to actually compete with another country. So instead of actually making better and cheaper cars they instead just decide to tell the American people "nah, looks like you're just being a shit Tesla"

                                      The US loves to say "free market" but notice how they don't allow a free market to force their industry to actually innovate and compete.

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                                      Trump is all about removing regulations and stated "for every new regulation, 10 must be revoked." During his first term it was 2. He is moving the market that way, and boy oh boy is it going to suck for the consumer and small companies that want to compete.

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                                        Yeah that's the number one reason I'm looking at other cars right now. So you could say I have some feelings about that.

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                                        I imagine 😅

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          It’s time to paste anti nazi / antifa sticker on it, but it should be driven until it’s death in respect to all the resources that was needed to build it. I mean, it is still a working car after all.

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                                          Sure, fair point. 👍

                                          I'd feel like such a target, to be honest. At least if I was living in politically-volatile America right now.

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