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  • pm_me_vintage_30s@lemmy.sdf.orgP [email protected]
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    I work for an US company and I got a day off, it is curious, cause Im from Costa Rica, and I belong to the bribri indigenous nation, and we commemorate Pa Bru day, an ancient leader who stopped Spanish incursions to our land in 1710. So I wish, from the deepest of my soul and for my ancestor that you, US fellows, rebel!

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      I still cannot fathom why they scheduled on a weekday for the next one. If you want turnout schedule for the weekends.

      I know people should go out regardless, but they have bills to pay. A lot of people can't afford to miss a shift and vacation time is far too limited

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      No, they need to be on weekdays. They need to disrupt business and be visible. Weekend protests in front of empty government buildings are worthless.

      Edit: worthless was the wrong word. They're not worthless, they just seem too easy to ignore for rich politicians who just go to one of their vacation homes every weekend. Or stay at home in their giant homes outside the city.

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        We need to grow our numbers! The only way we can do that is with continued non-violent organized protest. Violence will only reduce our numbers and suppress our resistance.

        Erica Chenoweth has a very well researched presentation on the success of non-violent resistance overthrowing dictatorships with only 3.5% of the population. I highly recommend it.

        Come out today for the Free America protest! We also have the Good Trouble Lives On protest on July 17th.

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        They're finally doing one on a weekday? Excellent. I like the concept of these protests but they seem so trivial when they involve people pretty much just hanging out with signs in front of empty government buildings. Having it on a weekday means disrupting business and work schedules. Don't let them ignore you.

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        • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

          No, I meant that revolting against a government without an election system change is replacing one almost dictatorship with another.

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          I mean again, yeah, I'm an anarchist, and obviously not just any revolt is gonna cut it. Although instead of an election system to elect representatives in a "representative" liberal "democracy", I think we can do a lot better than that.

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            It’s a great way to get arrested or killed, scare people away from resistance for fear of their safety, and embolden fascism by turning a constitutionally protected peaceful resistance into a domestic threat.

            How many people with guns do you estimate it takes to overthrow the largest military in the world by force?

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            One good guy with a 9mm is all it takes to take down a bad guy with 300 reaper drones

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              It’s a great way to get arrested or killed, scare people away from resistance for fear of their safety, and embolden fascism by turning a constitutionally protected peaceful resistance into a domestic threat.

              How many people with guns do you estimate it takes to overthrow the largest military in the world by force?

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              50 million? The population of the US is something like 340 million and there are more guns than people in this country.

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                No, they need to be on weekdays. They need to disrupt business and be visible. Weekend protests in front of empty government buildings are worthless.

                Edit: worthless was the wrong word. They're not worthless, they just seem too easy to ignore for rich politicians who just go to one of their vacation homes every weekend. Or stay at home in their giant homes outside the city.

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                It just simply won't have the same turnout. Frankly I think weekend protests are more visible since the average person is more likely to be out and about and not at their job.

                I think making the people see it and then you pressure the politicians. The politicians don't give a fuck if thousands of people are gathered outside a building.

                I attend my local protests and take the time off to do so. The last no kings protests pulled well over 1,000. Other weekend protests typically pull around 300 - 400 people. Weekday protests typically pull barely 100, if we're lucky 150 people. It just has less impact.

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                • pm_me_vintage_30s@lemmy.sdf.orgP [email protected]

                  It sucks that the USA is associated with the bald eagle because IMO it's still a beautiful bird and it did nothing to deserve the association. And also for me, the fact that they sound like seagulls makes them even more relatable because it has an annoying voice just like me 😆

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                  Ikr, they sound so funny and not at all like the majestic yet hyper masculine beasts they are usually portrayed as.

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                    It just simply won't have the same turnout. Frankly I think weekend protests are more visible since the average person is more likely to be out and about and not at their job.

                    I think making the people see it and then you pressure the politicians. The politicians don't give a fuck if thousands of people are gathered outside a building.

                    I attend my local protests and take the time off to do so. The last no kings protests pulled well over 1,000. Other weekend protests typically pull around 300 - 400 people. Weekday protests typically pull barely 100, if we're lucky 150 people. It just has less impact.

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                    Hmm. Yeah, maybe. It just seems too easy to ignore the weekend protests. Everyone who has power and money are elsewhere on Saturdays.

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                      Hmm. Yeah, maybe. It just seems too easy to ignore the weekend protests. Everyone who has power and money are elsewhere on Saturdays.

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                      At least in my city we are fortunate that the government buildings are located at a key intersection. Weekdays we usually just get heckled by lead brained boomers. Weekends there are way more cars, a more diverse audience, and more support in general.

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                        At least in my city we are fortunate that the government buildings are located at a key intersection. Weekdays we usually just get heckled by lead brained boomers. Weekends there are way more cars, a more diverse audience, and more support in general.

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                        Fair enough. I work weekends so I haven't been able to attend any of these yet, and was surprised I can finally go to one. You seem to base your opinions on first hand experience.

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                            I still cannot fathom why they scheduled on a weekday for the next one. If you want turnout schedule for the weekends.

                            I know people should go out regardless, but they have bills to pay. A lot of people can't afford to miss a shift and vacation time is far too limited

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                            I work weekends, so it's hard for me to attend weekday stuff. But I took off of work on a Saturday to protest, because we need people out there. So I say do it on the weekdays too, and have people call-in to work to go

                            Peaceful disruption by having mass call-ins on protest days; because it matters and it makes the protests harder to ignore when people aren't going into work every time a protest happens. Keep it happening, and keep the pressure up. I can't afford a vacation anyway, so I'll save my PTO to get out there and call-in to work whenever

                            My time off is my time off, don't matter why. I'm calling-in because it's none of their business. It's just a "sick day" cause I'm fucking sick (of the atrocities being normalized and the utter disintelligence spreading like wildfire)

                            Smaller protests are fine, cause people can't afford to be at every single one. But everyone can afford to be at as many as possible. Than you have a constant force that's more likely to crest

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                            • jeena@piefed.jeena.netJ [email protected]

                              Yes, a non existent one.

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                              I think I finally got it 🤣

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                                My guess is that their revolt will be similar as the recent Chinese and Russian ones.

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                                  50 million? The population of the US is something like 340 million and there are more guns than people in this country.

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                                  Cool. Our largest nationwide protest was ~11M, most of whom were elderly. So you agree we need to grow our numbers.

                                  Small factions of violence have historically proven to reduce resistance numbers and justify the implementation of assembly-restricting legislation.

                                  https://tedxboulder.com/speakers/erica-chenoweth

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                                    Cool. Our largest nationwide protest was ~11M, most of whom were elderly. So you agree we need to grow our numbers.

                                    Small factions of violence have historically proven to reduce resistance numbers and justify the implementation of assembly-restricting legislation.

                                    https://tedxboulder.com/speakers/erica-chenoweth

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                                    I wasn't suggesting we become violent yet, I was just answering your question. The population is definitely large enough for these protests and a violent revolution if it's ever required.

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                                      Long live King George III

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                                        At least in my city we are fortunate that the government buildings are located at a key intersection. Weekdays we usually just get heckled by lead brained boomers. Weekends there are way more cars, a more diverse audience, and more support in general.

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                                        The lead brained boomers are the ones who need to see it most.

                                        There is little value in preaching to the choir.

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                                          The lead brained boomers are the ones who need to see it most.

                                          There is little value in preaching to the choir.

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                                          I think the lead brained boomers are a lost cause.

                                          The group to convince are the unengaged or those that just vote a certain way without putting much thought.

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