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  • pm_me_vintage_30s@lemmy.sdf.orgP [email protected]

    It sucks that the USA is associated with the bald eagle because IMO it's still a beautiful bird and it did nothing to deserve the association. And also for me, the fact that they sound like seagulls makes them even more relatable because it has an annoying voice just like me 😆

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    Ikr, they sound so funny and not at all like the majestic yet hyper masculine beasts they are usually portrayed as.

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      It just simply won't have the same turnout. Frankly I think weekend protests are more visible since the average person is more likely to be out and about and not at their job.

      I think making the people see it and then you pressure the politicians. The politicians don't give a fuck if thousands of people are gathered outside a building.

      I attend my local protests and take the time off to do so. The last no kings protests pulled well over 1,000. Other weekend protests typically pull around 300 - 400 people. Weekday protests typically pull barely 100, if we're lucky 150 people. It just has less impact.

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      Hmm. Yeah, maybe. It just seems too easy to ignore the weekend protests. Everyone who has power and money are elsewhere on Saturdays.

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        Hmm. Yeah, maybe. It just seems too easy to ignore the weekend protests. Everyone who has power and money are elsewhere on Saturdays.

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        At least in my city we are fortunate that the government buildings are located at a key intersection. Weekdays we usually just get heckled by lead brained boomers. Weekends there are way more cars, a more diverse audience, and more support in general.

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          At least in my city we are fortunate that the government buildings are located at a key intersection. Weekdays we usually just get heckled by lead brained boomers. Weekends there are way more cars, a more diverse audience, and more support in general.

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          Fair enough. I work weekends so I haven't been able to attend any of these yet, and was surprised I can finally go to one. You seem to base your opinions on first hand experience.

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              I still cannot fathom why they scheduled on a weekday for the next one. If you want turnout schedule for the weekends.

              I know people should go out regardless, but they have bills to pay. A lot of people can't afford to miss a shift and vacation time is far too limited

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              I work weekends, so it's hard for me to attend weekday stuff. But I took off of work on a Saturday to protest, because we need people out there. So I say do it on the weekdays too, and have people call-in to work to go

              Peaceful disruption by having mass call-ins on protest days; because it matters and it makes the protests harder to ignore when people aren't going into work every time a protest happens. Keep it happening, and keep the pressure up. I can't afford a vacation anyway, so I'll save my PTO to get out there and call-in to work whenever

              My time off is my time off, don't matter why. I'm calling-in because it's none of their business. It's just a "sick day" cause I'm fucking sick (of the atrocities being normalized and the utter disintelligence spreading like wildfire)

              Smaller protests are fine, cause people can't afford to be at every single one. But everyone can afford to be at as many as possible. Than you have a constant force that's more likely to crest

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                Yes, a non existent one.

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                I think I finally got it 🤣

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                  My guess is that their revolt will be similar as the recent Chinese and Russian ones.

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                    50 million? The population of the US is something like 340 million and there are more guns than people in this country.

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                    Cool. Our largest nationwide protest was ~11M, most of whom were elderly. So you agree we need to grow our numbers.

                    Small factions of violence have historically proven to reduce resistance numbers and justify the implementation of assembly-restricting legislation.

                    https://tedxboulder.com/speakers/erica-chenoweth

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                      Cool. Our largest nationwide protest was ~11M, most of whom were elderly. So you agree we need to grow our numbers.

                      Small factions of violence have historically proven to reduce resistance numbers and justify the implementation of assembly-restricting legislation.

                      https://tedxboulder.com/speakers/erica-chenoweth

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                      I wasn't suggesting we become violent yet, I was just answering your question. The population is definitely large enough for these protests and a violent revolution if it's ever required.

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                        Long live King George III

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                          At least in my city we are fortunate that the government buildings are located at a key intersection. Weekdays we usually just get heckled by lead brained boomers. Weekends there are way more cars, a more diverse audience, and more support in general.

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                          The lead brained boomers are the ones who need to see it most.

                          There is little value in preaching to the choir.

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                            The lead brained boomers are the ones who need to see it most.

                            There is little value in preaching to the choir.

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                            I think the lead brained boomers are a lost cause.

                            The group to convince are the unengaged or those that just vote a certain way without putting much thought.

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                              The declaration really can't be highlighted like that. It undermines the gravity of the letter, but I understand people don't like to read.

                              Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed.

                              Essentially, they say that people are willing to endure suffering for the sake of not having to change their lives. But Then it follows that with

                              But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism

                              When all people can no longer ignore that the government is forcing everything to have an absolute ruler, the people will come to the conclusion that the government must end by force.

                              While a lot of people agree with this, it's not enough. When I go to work, everyone is still going about their day like nothing has really changed. Too many people still have shelter, food, and medicine. That's about to change now. And when people experience that, that is the time they will overthrow.

                              The reason they want revolutionary violence to occur earlier than later is because they still have the opportunity to turn the most brain washed against the rest of us.

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                                Cool. Our largest nationwide protest was ~11M, most of whom were elderly. So you agree we need to grow our numbers.

                                Small factions of violence have historically proven to reduce resistance numbers and justify the implementation of assembly-restricting legislation.

                                https://tedxboulder.com/speakers/erica-chenoweth

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                                tThe scary part to me is the imbalance of power and how few are aware of it. Yeah we have a bunch.of guns around here, but how many people actually can use them in a meaningful way? How many would know what to do if THEY were being shot at? Handful of retired vets, some people with a little training, but few have ever experienced active combat.

                                Never mind the fact that money is the real deal breaker. Government has drones upon drones. They have satellite imagery, cameras all over the place, they could easily shut down phone and internet connectivity as well as power. Collect phone data off of a certain area, set up a perimeter and use everyone stupid phones as a tracking beacon. Send in some drones for visibility some for strikes and push in military to clean up what's left.

                                Thats the thing nobody talks about. Going from our current pseudo-democracy to totalitarianism is little more than the flip of a switch by a crazy old man. They are under the illusion that it can't or won't happen. It 100% can. Nobody gives a shit about the nowhere places like great plains states, it would happen in major cities and surrounding regions. Take over, set up checkpoints. Once under control, sell them off to billionaires who would enact all their crazy control fetishes. One for zuck, one for theil, bezos will want one, maybe musky. Some people will escape to the useless regions like the south, central states or whatever, nobody will bother too much. If some sort of resistance grows, drop a few bombs to remind them that they're being watched. Cut off food, energy, blow upna few bridges and roads wait until winter.

                                I'm sure multiple versions of this have been modeled out within the military intelligence groups. Nobody is coming to save us. The rich people dont give a shit about this country, they only care about themselves. Nobody in the military is going to stage a coup, they would not stand a chance anyway and it would be a death sentence for anyone they know or love.

                                The only hope is that the crazy old bastard dies before he really decides to go full Looney toons. Its clear who runs this country; they always have but now they are no longer content to own an absurd amount of it, they want it ALL.

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                                  I'll believe it when I see it. The Americans seem perfectly content with how things are.

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                                    I wasn't suggesting we become violent yet, I was just answering your question. The population is definitely large enough for these protests and a violent revolution if it's ever required.

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                                    The population is, sure. The important thing to remember is that a violent resistance will always be smaller than a peaceful one, and the current size of our peaceful resistance is too small for a violent resistance to succeed.

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                                      Lisa murkowski can catch these hands.

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                                        So, someone within America has a negative view about the current American government and their supporters and you want to show them the error of their ways? So, this person you take issue with. Who is wishing ill of the supporters of the government attempting to bring about the end of social equity and expand the class divide of people based on financial income and the inalienable physical characteristics of people outside of white European descent, like the Jim Crow era, that's rot? That's what you're saying. Fuck off, man.

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                                        Actually they never said anything in support of equality.

                                        Fuck off, man.

                                        No, but thanks for the offer.

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                                          How about a general strike? More than protests but non-violent.

                                          It worked for Germany after WW I.

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