Bethesda is allegedly working on ‘multiple Fallout games’, including Fallout 3 Remastered, teases report
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FO3 was my first fallout experience, and I loved it. Currently playing 4, and it's not as engaging. Some elements are cool (building), but the stories seem flat.
Can you expand on the idea that it's not a good fallout game? What does that mean? What makes a good fallout game.
Thanks!
My first one was the first one, and what sets it (and 2) apart from 3 other than literally the entire game (1 and 2 were 2D isometric, dialogue and choice heavy, CRPGs with turn-based tactical combat) was as I said the general vibe.
It didn't take itself too seriously and the humor was incredibly seated in pop culture references. Bethesda's brand of humor is more muted and generic, and their writing is incredibly dry sometimes (the best writing they've ever seen is in Elder Scrolls 3).
4 has the same kind of silliness as the originals, the visuals also fit a lot better IMO. But the CRPG elements are almost entirely gone at this point, which is why I regard it as a fun shooter and not an RPG.
New Vegas, however, is still the GOAT among the 3D Fallout games. Not only does it have actual RPG elements that I expect from something calling itself an RPG, it has the exact same tone and vibe as the first two games mainly because it had Brian Fargo and one of the other original writers working on it.
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Bethesda killed Fallout. With shit games and that trash TV show.
Oh yeah, they absolutely killed Fallout, the first game released by Bethesda (Fallout 3) was such a franchise killer that only sold 20 times more than the original game, and their latest game fiasco only doubled that. And let's not talk about that fiasco of a TV show, that couldn't even make it to most watched on Amazon, had to settle for the 2nd most watched show on Amazon, with only 4 times more viewers than Fallout 4 sold copies... In short, yeah, the new direction is such a fiasco that only managed to bring 165 new customers for every 1 that the original had.
Sources:
https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout
https://wccftech.com/the-fallout-tv-show-has-registered-100-million-viewers-to-date/
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God fucking forbid they make ES6
Game studios don't only work on one game at a time, especially not big studios like Bethesda.
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Oh yeah, they absolutely killed Fallout, the first game released by Bethesda (Fallout 3) was such a franchise killer that only sold 20 times more than the original game, and their latest game fiasco only doubled that. And let's not talk about that fiasco of a TV show, that couldn't even make it to most watched on Amazon, had to settle for the 2nd most watched show on Amazon, with only 4 times more viewers than Fallout 4 sold copies... In short, yeah, the new direction is such a fiasco that only managed to bring 165 new customers for every 1 that the original had.
Sources:
https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout
https://wccftech.com/the-fallout-tv-show-has-registered-100-million-viewers-to-date/
Just because something is popular. Doesn't mean it's good.
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Remake fallout 1 and 2 cowards....hell maybe even Van Buren?
As much as I would love that, I think the original games being remastered to remove any bugs or maybe just having balance/difficulty changes/updates would be enough for me.
On a personal level, I would absolutely not buy a Fallout 1/2 remaster that changes how the NPC faces move when in the dialogue box thing with them. That almost uncanny valley like facial movement is something I absolutely love in older games.
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Just because something is popular. Doesn't mean it's good.
I never said they were good, and you didn't complain about them being bad, you complained about killing the franchise, and whether a franchise is dead or alive IS measured by popularity.
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I never said they were good, and you didn't complain about them being bad, you complained about killing the franchise, and whether a franchise is dead or alive IS measured by popularity.
wrote last edited by [email protected]...whether a franchise is dead or alive IS measured by popularity.
That's one way. But the better way is how good of a product is. Is by judging it on writing, story, and characters. If you do that to Bethesda Fallout. They are killing the franchise.
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wrote last edited by [email protected]After the TV series (which got weaker as it went on), there was a huge surge in its popularity but that quickly declined when new players saw the amount of hours they had to put in to play and explore.
There is no doubt that these new games will be aimed squarely at monetising those players and not its pre-existing fanbase.
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As much as I would love that, I think the original games being remastered to remove any bugs or maybe just having balance/difficulty changes/updates would be enough for me.
On a personal level, I would absolutely not buy a Fallout 1/2 remaster that changes how the NPC faces move when in the dialogue box thing with them. That almost uncanny valley like facial movement is something I absolutely love in older games.
Maybe Fallout 1 CE
https://github.com/alexbatalov/fallout1-ce
and Fallout 2 CE
https://github.com/alexbatalov/fallout2-ce
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Remake fallout 1 and 2 cowards....hell maybe even Van Buren?
They notoriously do not have the source code. Because the studio lost it after having told a few of the top devs to delete their copies.
One of them may not have listened, but it's unclear as yet what survived.
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Maybe Fallout 1 CE
https://github.com/alexbatalov/fallout1-ce
and Fallout 2 CE
https://github.com/alexbatalov/fallout2-ce
could be interesting for youDidn't know those existed, but not surprised. Definitely gonna have to check them out when I have the time.
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Repost because I forgot the link last time
They'll cancel everything but the remasters. I hate the lack of anything new coming out of AAA studios.
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I'll pass, thanks. Bethesdasoft can get fucked.
They lost me when they released Fallout 76 prematurely and refused to honor my refund request. I'm glad I bought it direct rather than through Steam, I charged that shit back and swore them off right then.
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I hope you’re right and I hope it isn’t Starfield with magic.
Thank you
Starfield is already Starfield with magic, tho
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Morrowind remake should have come before Oblivion. I deeply wish to experience Morrowind again with updated graphics.
I suspect that it is considerably harder to do because of the engine and requires nearly a full remake.
Bethesda could earn a significant amount of goodwill back by simply using OpenMW on a Morrowind Remaster and helping with its development, even if only for a year.
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Repost because I forgot the link last time
Everything Bethesda does is kind of bad. I'll probably get them when they're on sale, but I don't expect anything good.
Get Larian to make a fallout game
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The 3 people that still play 76 say it's good now. I'll choose to believe them and not check for myself.
i feel like theres a lot more people playing 76 than starfield at this point
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God fucking forbid they make ES6
I don’t think they have a good idea for ES6 and they know it’ll be a disappointment so they aren’t in a rush to put it out there
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Bethesda could earn a significant amount of goodwill back by simply using OpenMW on a Morrowind Remaster and helping with its development, even if only for a year.
That makes zero business sense. Bethesda would never make money on throwing away thousands or tens of thousands of man-hours on that. They would spend more on a remaster, but they would make money in the end.
The Oblivion remaster sold more in two weeks than Oblivion made in a year. It sold more copies in April alone than the original did in 15 months.
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After the TV series (which got weaker as it went on), there was a huge surge in its popularity but that quickly declined when new players saw the amount of hours they had to put in to play and explore.
There is no doubt that these new games will be aimed squarely at monetising those players and not its pre-existing fanbase.
I'm still waiting for them to recover financially so they can create another deep RPG like Daggerfall. I'll bet ES6 will be for the fans /s
