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Bethesda is allegedly working on ‘multiple Fallout games’, including Fallout 3 Remastered, teases report

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  • broadfern@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

    God fucking forbid they make ES6

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    Game studios don't only work on one game at a time, especially not big studios like Bethesda.

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      Oh yeah, they absolutely killed Fallout, the first game released by Bethesda (Fallout 3) was such a franchise killer that only sold 20 times more than the original game, and their latest game fiasco only doubled that. And let's not talk about that fiasco of a TV show, that couldn't even make it to most watched on Amazon, had to settle for the 2nd most watched show on Amazon, with only 4 times more viewers than Fallout 4 sold copies... In short, yeah, the new direction is such a fiasco that only managed to bring 165 new customers for every 1 that the original had.

      Sources:

      https://vgsales.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout

      https://wccftech.com/the-fallout-tv-show-has-registered-100-million-viewers-to-date/

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      Just because something is popular. Doesn't mean it's good.

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        Remake fallout 1 and 2 cowards....hell maybe even Van Buren?

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        As much as I would love that, I think the original games being remastered to remove any bugs or maybe just having balance/difficulty changes/updates would be enough for me.

        On a personal level, I would absolutely not buy a Fallout 1/2 remaster that changes how the NPC faces move when in the dialogue box thing with them. That almost uncanny valley like facial movement is something I absolutely love in older games.

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        • hal_5700x@sh.itjust.worksH [email protected]

          Just because something is popular. Doesn't mean it's good.

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          I never said they were good, and you didn't complain about them being bad, you complained about killing the franchise, and whether a franchise is dead or alive IS measured by popularity.

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            I never said they were good, and you didn't complain about them being bad, you complained about killing the franchise, and whether a franchise is dead or alive IS measured by popularity.

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            ...whether a franchise is dead or alive IS measured by popularity.

            That's one way. But the better way is how good of a product is. Is by judging it on writing, story, and characters. If you do that to Bethesda Fallout. They are killing the franchise.

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              Repost because I forgot the link last time

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              After the TV series (which got weaker as it went on), there was a huge surge in its popularity but that quickly declined when new players saw the amount of hours they had to put in to play and explore.

              There is no doubt that these new games will be aimed squarely at monetising those players and not its pre-existing fanbase.

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                As much as I would love that, I think the original games being remastered to remove any bugs or maybe just having balance/difficulty changes/updates would be enough for me.

                On a personal level, I would absolutely not buy a Fallout 1/2 remaster that changes how the NPC faces move when in the dialogue box thing with them. That almost uncanny valley like facial movement is something I absolutely love in older games.

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                Maybe Fallout 1 CE
                https://github.com/alexbatalov/fallout1-ce
                and Fallout 2 CE
                https://github.com/alexbatalov/fallout2-ce
                could be interesting for you

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                  Remake fallout 1 and 2 cowards....hell maybe even Van Buren?

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                  They notoriously do not have the source code. Because the studio lost it after having told a few of the top devs to delete their copies.

                  One of them may not have listened, but it's unclear as yet what survived.

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                    Maybe Fallout 1 CE
                    https://github.com/alexbatalov/fallout1-ce
                    and Fallout 2 CE
                    https://github.com/alexbatalov/fallout2-ce
                    could be interesting for you

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                    Didn't know those existed, but not surprised. Definitely gonna have to check them out when I have the time.

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                      Repost because I forgot the link last time

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                      They'll cancel everything but the remasters. I hate the lack of anything new coming out of AAA studios.

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                      • saltysalamander@fedia.ioS [email protected]

                        I'll pass, thanks. Bethesdasoft can get fucked.

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                        They lost me when they released Fallout 76 prematurely and refused to honor my refund request. I'm glad I bought it direct rather than through Steam, I charged that shit back and swore them off right then.

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                        • broadfern@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                          I hope you’re right and I hope it isn’t Starfield with magic.

                          Thank you

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                          Starfield is already Starfield with magic, tho 😬

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                            Morrowind remake should have come before Oblivion. I deeply wish to experience Morrowind again with updated graphics.

                            I suspect that it is considerably harder to do because of the engine and requires nearly a full remake.

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                            Bethesda could earn a significant amount of goodwill back by simply using OpenMW on a Morrowind Remaster and helping with its development, even if only for a year.

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                              Repost because I forgot the link last time

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                              Everything Bethesda does is kind of bad. I'll probably get them when they're on sale, but I don't expect anything good.

                              Get Larian to make a fallout game

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                              • S [email protected]

                                The 3 people that still play 76 say it's good now. I'll choose to believe them and not check for myself.

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                                i feel like theres a lot more people playing 76 than starfield at this point

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                                • broadfern@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                                  God fucking forbid they make ES6

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                                  I don’t think they have a good idea for ES6 and they know it’ll be a disappointment so they aren’t in a rush to put it out there

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                                    Bethesda could earn a significant amount of goodwill back by simply using OpenMW on a Morrowind Remaster and helping with its development, even if only for a year.

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                                    That makes zero business sense. Bethesda would never make money on throwing away thousands or tens of thousands of man-hours on that. They would spend more on a remaster, but they would make money in the end.

                                    The Oblivion remaster sold more in two weeks than Oblivion made in a year. It sold more copies in April alone than the original did in 15 months.

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                                      After the TV series (which got weaker as it went on), there was a huge surge in its popularity but that quickly declined when new players saw the amount of hours they had to put in to play and explore.

                                      There is no doubt that these new games will be aimed squarely at monetising those players and not its pre-existing fanbase.

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                                      I'm still waiting for them to recover financially so they can create another deep RPG like Daggerfall. I'll bet ES6 will be for the fans /s

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                                        Good lord that's more horrific than I thought. That's full blown MMORPG time sink levels without nearly the content of a real MMO.

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                                        Realistically, you could experience all the game content in like 200 hours. Even faster if you know higher level players that can help you, which a lot of higher level players will help you. That is a lot of content without the limitations that purposefully slow progression down like you see in MMOs. Keep in mind that you don't need the game subscription to play the game and don't need to spend any money in the game to play and get the endgame content.

                                        It isn't until you are trying to grind out getting certain things that your playtime skyrockets, but that is true with a real MMO.

                                        On the subject of the community and players helping players, the community is pretty great. I have dragged lower level players through the hardest part of the game and taken them from level 20(you can start the game at level 1 or 20) to over level 100(there is no max level) in an afternoon with no detriment to my enjoyment. I have given newer players thousands of scrap, hundreds of legendary mods, and hundreds of thousands of caps worth of item plans that you can on get with RNG grinds.

                                        I am not exceptional, I am pretty typical for the high level players. Since we have "nothing left" to do in the game and understand the meta, pretty much everything has lost value. We will buy overpriced stuff for sale in player vendors just because we want to get rid of caps and it takes us minutes to go from 1k caps to the 40k cap limit due to the value of the "crap" we have in our stash. Some players can't hit the cap limit in hundreds of hours of play. It could take you hours to get enough material to make 2k of ammo(that you can burn through in an hour) and we will give you 10k of that ammo or enough materials to make 10k and not even notice the loss because we know how to net gain ammo.

                                        Compared to gacha games and actual MMOs, FO76 is far better in terms of cost in terms of time and money, also the community is very helpful to new players.

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                                          Why bother with 5 at all right now? Remaster 3, and New Vegas, take the profits from those and then release 5. Oh and also keep that shit offline. 76 was a huge let down.

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                                          Because a fully new game takes way longer and more resources to develop than remasters.

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