Professor's got it right
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Definitely treat them. Really enthusiastically. And let everyone else in the building, perhaps people whose inaurance is fucking them, know what room it's in. Obviously stay on hand to make sure nobody gets any mortal injuries. Bill it extra for every part of that. Do not let your patient die. Dying us bad; think of everything left in the world for your patient to do!
This is a happy fantasy. I wish doctors were this cool.
This is the way.
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I am an orderly that was in surgical services and we had a young girl covered in nazi tattoos that came in for surgery. We had to care for her the same as anyone else. Of course we all talked mad shit after that anesthesia kicked in.
I agree there. The talkin shit after is where the “fun” happens. Because yeah. We have to treat but that doesn’t mean we need to not process what we just went through.
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The patients sexual orientation does in fact have no influence on their health. The only groups out of the LGBTQIA+ spectrum where you have some "right to deny" healthcare may be trans and intersex people due to them having special conditions and you might not have the knowledge to treat them accordingly. For the rest you are just batshit stupid if you care that much about what people do in their private time.
that doesn't mean you refuse to treat us though, it just means your treatment might take the form of giving a referral to a specialist. you don't refuse to treat a patient with glasses just cause you aren't an optometrist.
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What if the patient is a health care CEO who is known for denying health care to others?
Hippocratic Oath. So you turn off their life support obviously
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"Ah, but they choose to act on it! You see, my old preacher struggled with gay thoughts all the time because of Satan. He told us so nearly every Sunday. But did he act on them? No! He was straight, just as god intended.
So those people having gay thoughts are CHOOSING to be gay when they could pray and get a wife and have children like the lord said."
-Some dipshit I know
"He resisted his homosexual urges, and remained faithful to his heterosexual wife until the very day he shot himself."
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"Ah, but they choose to act on it! You see, my old preacher struggled with gay thoughts all the time because of Satan. He told us so nearly every Sunday. But did he act on them? No! He was straight, just as god intended.
So those people having gay thoughts are CHOOSING to be gay when they could pray and get a wife and have children like the lord said."
-Some dipshit I know
No this is literally it though. They think being gay is a choice because they’re repressed, and constantly feel tempted. They assume everyone feels that, and only gay people give in.
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My first college was a technical college that also trained nurses. If there’s one thing I learned it’s that nurses have nasty hygiene habits. Hopefully that gets washed out (pun intended) in the field; eventually.
A nurse once told me to "mind my own fucking business" when I said "are you fucking kidding me?" to seeing her pull off her mask to cough into her hand and go back to the shit she was working on during covid lock downs. In the ER nurses station, surrounded by nurses with asks completely down or with noses poking out.
10/10
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Now you can just move to Tennessee and practice there, they have a law now protecting doctors who deny care for personal beliefs.
Are they still considered professional doctors if they are willing to do harm to their patients by ignoring the latest scientific research on patient care because it makes them feel icky?
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I have doctors/technicians in the family.
And... WTF.
Do the students know the horrific, gruesome, batshit crazy stuff doctors have to witness and deal with? Not just like objects stuck in orifices, but mentally ill and abusive patients, deathly contagious ones, slow motion tragedy, stuff oozing out of the body you wouldn't believe. Criminal patients, criminal bosses and companies, drama with staff, corporate drama, other fucked up or abusive doctors, drug abuse (from the staff), plenty of sex scandals...
...And their thought is: "Patients that want to rub their genitals on the same sex? Eww. I refuse to deal with that, even professionally."
Wut?
Let's play devil's advocate and say the bigotry is somehow justified (when it's not). Still, how does that even work? Like, an anti-vaxx nurse I know makes at least some sense, by comparison.
Apparently in Tennessee it is now legal for doctors there to simply not treat people they don't agree with their "lifestyle".
Couldn't pay me enough to live in a red state. Might as well move to a third world country for how backwards they all are.
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A nurse once told me to "mind my own fucking business" when I said "are you fucking kidding me?" to seeing her pull off her mask to cough into her hand and go back to the shit she was working on during covid lock downs. In the ER nurses station, surrounded by nurses with asks completely down or with noses poking out.
10/10
On the one hand you're 1000% right but man it must've sucked so much ass being a nurse during COVID, I probably would've been close to snapping 24/7.
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Student: B-but what if I can't stand the sight of blood!?
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"He resisted his homosexual urges, and remained faithful to his heterosexual wife until the very day he shot himself."
wrote last edited by [email protected]"You know what I'm talking about; the homosexual fantasies the devil constantly sends into everyone's heads since they became teenagers. Those ones. ... What do you mean 'no'?"
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No this is literally it though. They think being gay is a choice because they’re repressed, and constantly feel tempted. They assume everyone feels that, and only gay people give in.
I have said for a long time that the number of bisexual people must be huge. All of these right-wingers seem to be equally attracted to men and women, so they're obviously bi and choosing to ignore part of their own sexuality.
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The patients sexual orientation does in fact have no influence on their health. The only groups out of the LGBTQIA+ spectrum where you have some "right to deny" healthcare may be trans and intersex people due to them having special conditions and you might not have the knowledge to treat them accordingly. For the rest you are just batshit stupid if you care that much about what people do in their private time.
Yeah, I’m going to echo the other comment - I don’t think doctors should ever be able to deny trans people healthcare. If it’s something out of their expertise, a referral might make sense. But right now there’s a lot of movement towards denying us healthcare, and I don’t think we should be giving that side any more excuses for their bigotry.
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The absolute gall they have to call it a "lifestyle" like people choose to live that way one day
It's not a fucking lifestyle, LGBTQ+ people just are and they exist
They don't choose to suddenly be that way one day, they have been that way their entire life and discover that about themselves
Well, it's a bit of both. The ostracized nature of 'different' people has spawned several sub-cultures that most 'different' people fall in to to some degree or another.
Not that anything is wrong with either being different or living differently. Hegemonic monocultures are so... fucking... BORING.
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I never will understand how somebody gets into any facet of medicine (e.g. nurse, doctor, pharmacist) and find it okay to deny anybody healthcare solely based on how the person lives. Like dude, there are better ways to make money and be a bigot at the same time. Insurance CEO comes to mind. Cannon fodder as well.
Same answer to both; cowardly traditionalist afraid to speak their minds.
From traditional/conservative families which value the status of being a doctor, not the "helping patients" part. Prejudiced.
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Apparently in Tennessee it is now legal for doctors there to simply not treat people they don't agree with their "lifestyle".
Couldn't pay me enough to live in a red state. Might as well move to a third world country for how backwards they all are.
"Woah this guys a millionaire you say? I'm afraid I cant operate on this man due to his choice to be wealthy."
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Don't feel too bad, I once had a ticket come across my desk for HIPPO violations. It took half the day to figure out what they were talking about.
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This culture war nonsense has ruined us. In a humane world a person should be embarrassed and shamed for saying something like 'what if I don't feel comfortable with their lifestyle' - in ANY situation, not to mention a medical one. How about just some basic human decency? What about live and let live? Ideas that we'd all want for ourselves but somehow some of us find it so difficult to afford to others.
And before anyone comes at me with some 'paradox of tolerance' nonsense - no, in the tolerant world I dream of, there is no room for the intolerant. We cannot tolerate the intolerant if we want to live in a tolerant world.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Nah, the paradox of tolerance is exactly about not tolerating the intolerant. The solution is not tolerating the intolerant. It's just called a paradox because to stupid people it sounds contradictory, just like how appropriate self-defense can include offense: Just because someone's throwing punches does not magically make them bad if they didn't start the fight.
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Don't feel too bad, I once had a ticket come across my desk for HIPPO violations. It took half the day to figure out what they were talking about.
Oh nooo, was the hippo OK?
