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Long Island man wearing 9kg-metal necklace dies after being sucked into MRI machine

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    all they needed was a magnet of equal or greater strength

    MRI magnets are electromagnets that are supercooled with liquid helium and take hours to start or stop because of the electrical energy that has to be put in or taken out.

    So just having a magnet of equal strengh for idiot defense would be a very significant waste of electricity and helium unfortunately

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    take hours to start or stop

    You mean they're in constant operation the whole shift?
    Surely dialed way down in between scans?

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      So many dumb ways to die...

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      Another Darwin award.

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        Just for your information, the machine, meaning the magnet, is ALWAYS on.

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        Surely dialed down in between scans?

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          while the machine was running?

          In an MRI, the magnet is always on, even when the machine isn't running. You can't ever go near it with metal on.

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          the magnet is always on,

          I keep seeing that in the comments but isn't it actually an electromagnet?
          Don't those need electricity to operate?

          I get it takes time to wind it up, been inside a few myself, but surely there's a kill switch?

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            Another Darwin award.

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            Only if he didn't have kids.

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              Did no one else read the story? I read it and it sounds moreso the clinic's fault

              The necklace he was wearing was a steel weighted exercise band, not a normal necklace. He's not flexing his wealth or anything

              His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.

              Seems like the technician was told by the wife to bring her husband in to help her up. The technician/clinic made a mistake by letting in the husband, who didn't seem properly warned about MRIs no metal policy. The technician also somehow didn't catch the giant "necklace" he'd be wearing.

              The "he wasn't supposed to be there" seems like a coverup for their mistake, since how else would he have known to go in? Someone must've told him to walk into the room, it's not like he could hear through the door.

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              100% the technicians fault, the technician saw it. It even had a metal padlock.

              They’d even discussed his training and the hard-to-miss chain with the MRI technician during their previous appointments, Jones-McAllister said.
              “That was not the first time that guy has seen that chain” on her husband, she said. “They had a conversation about it before.”

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/long-island-man-killed-in-freak-mri-accident-was-wearing-20-pound-chain-necklace-with-padlock/ar-AA1IXop6

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              Why even wear the stupid necklace when going to the MRI in the first place? Like, how thoughtless and selfish can you be? Always assume you are surrounded by barely-functional morons, especially in the medical field which seems to attract these types of people, and think defensively.

              "Geez, I'm going to be near an MRI machine, maybe I'll wear a 20 pound piece of steel around my neck? Genius! Let's do it!"

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                9 kilograms Necklace?! What kind of necklace is that?

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                  He didn't see the new Final Destination movie.

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                    The man, 61, had entered the MRI room while a scan was underway

                    How was that allowed?

                    he asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table.

                    ...while the machine was still working? And isn't that the job of the technician anyway?

                    the technician helped her try to pull her husband off the machine but it was impossible.

                    Those machines have a kill-switch for a reason.

                    I call this BS or a very incompetent technician.
                    Plus a Darwin award for the guy.

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                    Couple things:

                    The magnet is ALWAYS on.

                    The "kill switch" takes about five minutes to actually deactivate the magnet and it costs about thirty grand in helium every time you push it.

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                      Couple things:

                      The magnet is ALWAYS on.

                      The "kill switch" takes about five minutes to actually deactivate the magnet and it costs about thirty grand in helium every time you push it.

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                      Isn't it an electomagnet?

                      it costs about thirty grand in helium every time you push it.

                      Oh, right, i forgot human lives have a price in the US.

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                        Surely dialed down in between scans?

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                        No it is only turned off during maintenance or by an emergency kill switch.

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                          the magnet is always on,

                          I keep seeing that in the comments but isn't it actually an electromagnet?
                          Don't those need electricity to operate?

                          I get it takes time to wind it up, been inside a few myself, but surely there's a kill switch?

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                          It would probably be quicker for you to look it up yourself because the answer is complicated to explain. But it's an electromagnet made from superconducting materials, and that is why it seems to violate your common sense.

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                            Did no one else read the story? I read it and it sounds moreso the clinic's fault

                            The necklace he was wearing was a steel weighted exercise band, not a normal necklace. He's not flexing his wealth or anything

                            His wife told News 12 Long Island in a recorded interview that she was undergoing an MRI on her knee when she asked the technician to get her husband to help her get off the table. She said she called out to him.

                            Seems like the technician was told by the wife to bring her husband in to help her up. The technician/clinic made a mistake by letting in the husband, who didn't seem properly warned about MRIs no metal policy. The technician also somehow didn't catch the giant "necklace" he'd be wearing.

                            The "he wasn't supposed to be there" seems like a coverup for their mistake, since how else would he have known to go in? Someone must've told him to walk into the room, it's not like he could hear through the door.

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                            100% the technicians fault, the technician saw it. It even had a metal padlock.

                            They’d even discussed his training and the hard-to-miss chain with the MRI technician during their previous appointments, Jones-McAllister said.
                            “That was not the first time that guy has seen that chain” on her husband, she said. “They had a conversation about it before.”

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/long-island-man-killed-in-freak-mri-accident-was-wearing-20-pound-chain-necklace-with-padlock/ar-AA1IXop6

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                            I'm not saying it's the husband's fault, but I don't think it's 100% on the technician either.

                            I read it more like she asked the technician to get her husband and called out to her husband who presumably just walked in.

                            Also, "they discussed the chain on a previous visit" doesn't really change anything. Depending on how many people that technician sees and when that last visit was, they might've just forgotten.

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                              Isn't it an electomagnet?

                              it costs about thirty grand in helium every time you push it.

                              Oh, right, i forgot human lives have a price in the US.

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                              It's not an electromagnet, it's a superconducting magnet. And turning it immediately off makes it melt.

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                                Surely 9kg necklace isn't something you can just sneak around with, how was he allowed to get close enough to an MRI machine in the first place wearing it?

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                                Hospitals aren’t jails or high security government facilities. I could walk around a hospital right now and walk into an MRI room and nobody would physically stop me.
                                I used to work in a hospital and we had a long meeting about signs, because a cleaner didn’t look at the door sign and walked into an MRI room with a metal floor buffer.

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                                  Isn't it an electomagnet?

                                  it costs about thirty grand in helium every time you push it.

                                  Oh, right, i forgot human lives have a price in the US.

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                                  I'm sure he was barely trained and had specific instructions to "never push that button!" When you whole life in the country is tied to your employment, it's every moron for themselves.

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                                    Only if he didn't have kids.

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                                    Yah the guy was 61 so it’s unlikely that Darwin would figure into the consequences.

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                                      Again, why aren't there metal detectors at the entrances to MRI machines everywhere? For the cost of those machines, the cost of a metal detector is peanuts

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                                        Reading more about the story I wonder how much of it is true

                                        You can't just "walk into an MRI room", for one

                                        When the MRI is working you definitely can't just walk in. Nobody is in there because of the radiation, so i doubt they just have an open door policy

                                        Then, when there is an emergency like, you know, someone being strangled with a 9kg necklace on his neck by the machine's magnetism, you can press the kill switch that will quench the magnet by venting out all cooling liquid. This will damage the machine and is also a very expensive little joke, but it would save the life of that guy. Why didn't they do that?

                                        It's a similar story to the guy that went into an MRI with a gun, causing it to fire and kill the guy.

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                                          Surely dialed down in between scans?

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                                          No. They are usually superconducting magnets in persistent mode:

                                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_magnet

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