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What's the underrated quote that will stick with you for life?

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  • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

    Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

    Mine would be :

    "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

    For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

    Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

    How about you?

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    Don't be upsetti, eat some spaghetti.

    Sounds silly but genuinely helps me not get too upset about things I don't hold much power over. At the end of the day I can still make a pot of spaghetti and enjoy it. I like spaghetti.

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    • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

      Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

      Mine would be :

      "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

      For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

      Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

      How about you?

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      Comparison is the thief of joy. I think a lot of people could do with that one.

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        Don't let the fear of the time it will take to accomplish something stand in the way of your doing it. The time will pass anyway; we might just as well put that passing time to the best possible use.

        Earl Nightingale

        Someone shared the phrase "The time will pass anyway" with me back when I was working on getting healthier. It was a constant reminder that there was no "best" day to start my journey and that anytime I was set back, I could pick things back up right away.

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        With that username and that quote, I expect that you are (like me) in your 60s.

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          "Sometimes the smallest things take up the most room in your heart." - Winnie-the-Pooh

          I didn't read Winnie-the-Pooh till I was an adult and when I read this it felt like reading a universal truth everyone should know. It nearly brought me to tears.

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          It sounds like you might like "The Tao of Pooh".

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          • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

            Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

            Mine would be :

            "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

            For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

            Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

            How about you?

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            "we are born alone, we live alone, and we die alone. it is only through love and relationships that we create the illusion that we are not alone"

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            • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

              Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

              Mine would be :

              "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

              For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

              Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

              How about you?

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              “No matter where you go, there you are.”

              Made absolutely no sense to me when I was younger. Now, I get that it means changing one’s location or situation in an effort to avoid something doesn’t work. You’re still you, you’re there, and the problem still exists. Obviously some situations can be improved by leaving them, so the statement isn’t completely correct, but there’s plenty of truth to it.

              “You can never go home again” also used to bug me, because of course you can physically return to the places you grew up. But if you’ve been away a good while the place you grew up in might have changed, the people will have changed, and you will also have changed. Home will be where you have made a new life. Your old home will be like trying to put on a shoe you haven’t worn in a few years. Yeah, it fits, but it doesn’t feel right. It’s not comfortable like it used to feel. Home isn’t there anymore. I kinda envy some people that I know who never left my hometown. They have the same friends, been hanging out for years, still get together for family stuff…but at the same time I’ve experienced a shitload more than they have. My original home doesn’t exist for me anymore.

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                "we are born alone, we live alone, and we die alone. it is only through love and relationships that we create the illusion that we are not alone"

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                If the point of this one is to emphasize how no one lives your life except for you, that’s great and all but holy shit there are less depressing ways of getting that across.

                Humanity is a social animal. If you live your life under the guidance that loneliness is omnipresent and companionship is merely an illusion I strongly urge you to rethink the way you go about your days. Find people to talk to in person and do things with them.

                I think capitalism and the ruling class has desperately tried to convince everyone that they are alone because if the working class sees themself as one body the ruling class is fucked

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                • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                  Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                  Mine would be :

                  "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                  For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                  Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                  How about you?

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                  "Feelings are like children, you can't let them drive, but you can't put them in the trunk."

                  But I feel that one has a ¨spiritual parent¨:

                  "Educate a child so you don't have to reprimand an adult."

                  and a ¨spiritual sibling¨:

                  "If your only tool is a Hammer then every problem looks like a Nail."

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                  • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                    Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                    Mine would be :

                    "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                    For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                    Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                    How about you?

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                    "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt" - Often wrongly attributed to Mark Twain or Abraham Lincoln but the earliest record is Maurice Switzer

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                    • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                      Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                      Mine would be :

                      "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                      For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                      Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                      How about you?

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                      It is said that cameras don't lie, but we must remember that liars use cameras. - Michael Parenti

                      This is a statement on the bias of all media, i like to use the same quote regarding statistics too.

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                      • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                        Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                        Mine would be :

                        "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                        For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                        Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                        How about you?

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                        Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.

                        George Orwell, 1984

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                        • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                          Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                          Mine would be :

                          "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                          For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                          Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                          How about you?

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                          "True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country." ~ Kurt Vonnegut

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                          • lattrommi@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                            Something my grandpa said, sometime around 2006-2007 I think.

                            "The next world war, will be between the rich and and the poor, and the rich will win before the poor knows there's a war."

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                            i mean that's been every war to date except some revolutions 😂

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                            • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                              Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                              Mine would be :

                              "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                              For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                              Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                              How about you?

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                              "History is a nightmare from which I am trying to awake" - Stephen Daedalus in Ulysses by James Joyce.

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                              • deadninja@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                "Hurt people hurt people"

                                Ever since I heard this, I became relatively more compassionate towards people, even if they piss me off.

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                                "If they knew better, they'd do better."

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                                • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                  “No matter where you go, there you are.”

                                  Made absolutely no sense to me when I was younger. Now, I get that it means changing one’s location or situation in an effort to avoid something doesn’t work. You’re still you, you’re there, and the problem still exists. Obviously some situations can be improved by leaving them, so the statement isn’t completely correct, but there’s plenty of truth to it.

                                  “You can never go home again” also used to bug me, because of course you can physically return to the places you grew up. But if you’ve been away a good while the place you grew up in might have changed, the people will have changed, and you will also have changed. Home will be where you have made a new life. Your old home will be like trying to put on a shoe you haven’t worn in a few years. Yeah, it fits, but it doesn’t feel right. It’s not comfortable like it used to feel. Home isn’t there anymore. I kinda envy some people that I know who never left my hometown. They have the same friends, been hanging out for years, still get together for family stuff…but at the same time I’ve experienced a shitload more than they have. My original home doesn’t exist for me anymore.

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                                  My wife struggles with that second one a lot and I wish I knew how to help her.

                                  ::: spoiler Ramble
                                  She's built up this golden fantasy of her childhood and where she's from, and she blames so much of what I file away as "normal life bs" on where we live now. Every time we visit her hometown I see the same problems there that she blames on where we live.

                                  She has a hard time seeing the benefits of where we live now because she grew up in a tight knit extended family that closed the gaps so to speak. But that extended family has drifted apart. People have grown up. The old matriarchs and patriarchs have passed. That same tight knit family doesn't exist anymore in the way it used to.

                                  She basically had a high quality, premade social group and support structure just handed to her growing up. She moved states and life events kept getting in the way of her building a new one. But she blames that on location rather than what is now a lack of effort. Issues she overlooked long ago (and still) with family are things she can't let go of when faced with them in potential friends.

                                  And ultimately, the loss of these things just brings her sadness and depression. She's not in a state where she's interested in trying to make it work beyond saying she wants to verbally. Pretty textbook depression but there's complications right now in the way of her seeking help.
                                  :::

                                  Apologies for the ramble/off my chest shit.

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                                    My wife struggles with that second one a lot and I wish I knew how to help her.

                                    ::: spoiler Ramble
                                    She's built up this golden fantasy of her childhood and where she's from, and she blames so much of what I file away as "normal life bs" on where we live now. Every time we visit her hometown I see the same problems there that she blames on where we live.

                                    She has a hard time seeing the benefits of where we live now because she grew up in a tight knit extended family that closed the gaps so to speak. But that extended family has drifted apart. People have grown up. The old matriarchs and patriarchs have passed. That same tight knit family doesn't exist anymore in the way it used to.

                                    She basically had a high quality, premade social group and support structure just handed to her growing up. She moved states and life events kept getting in the way of her building a new one. But she blames that on location rather than what is now a lack of effort. Issues she overlooked long ago (and still) with family are things she can't let go of when faced with them in potential friends.

                                    And ultimately, the loss of these things just brings her sadness and depression. She's not in a state where she's interested in trying to make it work beyond saying she wants to verbally. Pretty textbook depression but there's complications right now in the way of her seeking help.
                                    :::

                                    Apologies for the ramble/off my chest shit.

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                                    Sorry you and your wife are dealing with that. Kinda reminds me of an old saw: within two years of marriage you will move to within two miles of your mother in law. Sounds like maybe that’s what your wife was after with the support structure of family. FWIW “benefits” might be subjective…what one person considers beneficial may not have the same importance to another.

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                                    • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                      Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                                      Mine would be :

                                      "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                                      For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                                      Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                                      How about you?

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                                      "When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
                                      -A clump of talking stars in Futurama
                                      I look at it like being a good custodian or someone who takes pride in the smallest details of their work, regardless of whether or not you receive recognition for them. Most people don't notice the effort being put in when things are running smoothly. The work of the people behind the scenes is directly responsible for successes in the spotlight.

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                                      • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                        Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                                        Mine would be :

                                        "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                                        For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                                        Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                                        How about you?

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                                        Oh and there's also this one ftom H2G2 :

                                        Slartibartfast: Perhaps I'm old and tired, but I think that the chances of finding out what's actually going on are so absurdly remote that the only thing to do is to say, "Hang the sense of it," and keep yourself busy. I'd much rather be happy than right any day.
                                        Arthur Dent: And are you?
                                        Slartibartfast: Ah, no.
                                        [laughs, snorts]
                                        Slartibartfast: Well, that's where it all falls down, of course

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                                        • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                          Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                                          Mine would be :

                                          "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                                          For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                                          Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                                          How about you?

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                                          "Like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, they should never let him get away with that, they was just asking for bad trouble." Peter Clemenza, The Godfather

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