[Gamers Nexus] Paper Launch

[sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works]

Yup, my 6650 XT is perfectly fine, and my SO has a 6700 XT. Both are way more than we need, and we paid $200-300 for them on sale. Why get the top end? Mine is roughly equivalent to current consoles, so I doubt I'm missing out on much except RTX, but I also don't care enough about RTX to 10x my GPU cost.

[poleslav@lemmy.world]

As someone who does VR in flight sims on one of the least optimized games (DCS) I can see the allure. Aside from that one niche though, I can’t think of many uses for a 90 series card though

[thegrandnagus@lemmy.world]

You're right, however I'd say that Nvidia has always been stingy with VRAM. The 3060 had 6GB while the RX 480 had 8GB, for example, and there are similar examples going back a long way.

It has got pretty bad recently. Worse than normal. AI is also very VRAM intensive (even moreso than gaming), so I imagine they've been diverting those chips to their AI/enterprise cards.

[filister@lemmy.world]

The problem is that NVIDIA is consistently gimping the mid range making it a very unattractive proposition.

[tabular@lemmy.world]

I want 4k 144Hz

[atheartengineer@lemmy.world]

If AMD was smart they would release an upper-mid range card with like 40+ gb of vram. Doesn't event have to be their high end card, people wanting to do local/self serve AI stuff would swarm on those.

[eager_eagle@lemmy.world]

yeah, I've been wanting a card like that to run local models since 2020 when I gor a 3080. Back then I'd have spent a bit more to get one with the same performance but some 20GB of VRAM.

Nowadays, if they released an RX 9070 with at least 24GB and a price between the 16GB model and an RTX 5080 (also 16GB); that would be neat.

[atheartengineer@lemmy.world]

Same, I've got a modded 2080ti with 22gb of vram running deepseek 32b and it's great... But it's an old card, and with it being modded idk what the life expectancy is.

[warm@kbin.earth]

Another problem is how big games are made now, they are made (relatively) quickly and are very underperformant. So while GPUs 2, 3 generations ago could be running beautiful games at beautiful framerates, instead they run like ass. Nvidia wants them to rely on their DLSS shit to give people a reason to keep buying their GPUs every cycle. So people feel like they need to upgrade, when they really don't, instead they should stop buying these poorly made games.

[reallyactuallyfrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com]

Well, Nvidia seemingly forgot to price gouge on RAM for the 3060 and they had a 12 GB standard version for a while. That should have been the low range standard, with 24 for mid and 32 for high, but they've adjusted.

[thegrandnagus@lemmy.world]

They only did that because they were forced by AMD's VRAM choices and unexpectedly great RDNA2 architecture.

Because of the memory bus that the 3060 had, it essentially had to have either 6GB of VRAM or 12GB, and it'd have looked stupid next to AMD with only 6GB, so they changed it to 12GB fairly late on in development.

It led to the bizarre situation of the 3060 Ti (based on the 3070 die) having less VRAM at 8GB.

So yeah, less that they didn't want to price gouge, more that AMD was giving 12GB for similarly priced cards that were also much faster, and Nvidia knew that 6GB would look like a joke in comparison.

[reallyactuallyfrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com]

Thanks, I didn't know that!

[foggenbooty@lemmy.world]

Please just give us self hosting nerds SR-IOV on affordable cards. I really want to have a Linux VM and Windows VM that both have access to a GPU simultaneously.

I was hoping Intel would let some of these enterprise locked features trickle down as a value add, but no dice. Every year AMD just undercuts NVIDIA by a small amount, but it doesn't compete on some of that tech NVIDIA has so it's a wash.

But they're too concerned it would eat into their enterprise cards where they make boatloads, so it's not going to happen. Imagine if consumer CPUs didn't support virtualization, it would be insane and that's where we are with GPUs today.

[malmen@masto.pt]

@foggenbooty @AtHeartEngineer spent hours and hours trying to have my gpu passthroigh ony vms and only found agony and dispair

[atempuser23@lemmy.world]

It's a hobby. It's easy to drop thousands on the expensive ends of hobbies.

As for the amount of attention. I've watched far more sports car reviews than I have mid-size sedan reviews.

[atempuser23@lemmy.world]

I think this is on purpose. The kind of people who spend $1000+ on a GPU are more likely to spend $75 on a new release video game.