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6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

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  • manticore@lemmy.nzM [email protected]

    Nope, will probably avoid 11 as long as I can though. I have an Mvidia card (drivers are notoriously troublesome on Linux). And I need professional design software for work (as in, industry standard: Adobe or Affinity).

    But I put 11 on my laptop to try it and I hate it. So many terrible UI changes, UX noticeably worse. Like they changed stuff just to say they changed stuff.

    I considered going Linux for personal use and development, and then using another machine or dual boot for Mac for design software. But i learned about the Nvidia issues after I upgraded my card ๐Ÿ˜•

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    I have an Mvidia card (drivers are notoriously troublesome on Linux).

    They haven't been for a while now. On some newer distros they'll install the Nvidia drivers at the same time as the OS itself.

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      Honestly, I still don't know. My 3070 worked well on linux the last time I used it so hardware won't be an issue. I also don't play many modern games so that's not a problem either. It's just my partner is schizo with what games they wanna play. Rn they're obsessed with minecraft and bedrock doesn't work on linux. I know for sure I'm not going to 11 though. I've used it before and absolutely hated the UI layout.

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        Just upgrade yall are so dramatic for no reason at all. If 11 is that bad just switch to Linux.

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          I already moved to linux (In my case Linux Mint) two weeks ago ^^

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            I have no plans to either update to win11 or change back to chanting magic spells at my computer to get it to work (Ubuntu, many years ago).

            My computer works and does everything I want it to. Basic internet security and reasonable precautions are sufficient for a low level user like me to stay safe.

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              I'll upgrade to 11 Enterprise via massgrave.

              Sadly with Adobe and some of my online games not supporting Linux, I have to stick with Windows ๐Ÿ˜• I'll just try to rip out all the telemetry, etc. via O&O and group policies.

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                Just upgrade yall are so dramatic for no reason at all. If 11 is that bad just switch to Linux.

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                People might get a little emotional about it but I bounce between Linux Mint, windows 10, and windows 11 and honestly I totally agree that windows 11 is trash. When my windows 10 computer reaches it's limit, I might try to figure out how to run games on Linux/proton or whatever that is.

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                  I got a new PC recently so unfortunately I am now on Windows 11. Iโ€™ve been wanting to make the swap to Linux but I canโ€™t really make a clean break because at least some of the games I play a lot wonโ€™t work on Linux. I do think Iโ€™m gonna try to set up another hard drive with Linux on it to try to slowly start learning it and ideally move over anything that I can over there eventually and just keep the windows drive for those few games.

                  Does anyone have any recommendations related to that? Distro for gaming/ease of use? Whatโ€™s the best option for setting up the dual boot? Anything I wouldnโ€™t have thought of thatโ€™s relevant?

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                  Just in case you are thinking this like I used to, don't go by "unplayable on steam deck" to determine what games you won't be able to play on a Linux desktop. While those games include incompatible with Linux games, they also include ones that the deck hardware can't handle at a decent framerate but otherwise play fine on Linux.

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                    Gaming on Linux has never been better. Out of the top 100 (mostly Windows platform) games, only 7 are entirely unplayable according to https://www.protondb.com/

                    80/100 are Gold or Platinum rated which means very playable. I often get better performance in Linux than Windows, even with the default open source drivers. I am using an AMD GPU which gives an advantage as they have better open source support, but for NVIDIA all the Linux distros I've used have had a documented path to install their binary drivers for better performance.

                    It's true that it sometimes takes a bit more tinkering, especially if you're using some esoteric controller or other funky hardware, but in the days of LLMs that can coach you through issues it's more accessible than it's ever been.

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                    My Steam profile is apparently 30% platinum, 21% gold, 10% varying levels of broken, 39% unrated.

                    But Genshin Impact, one of my main games, doesn't even appear on ProtonDB, and as far as I heard you need a custom Linux launcher for it, that results in occasional banwaves, which I will not risk ๐Ÿ˜•

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                      I don't really feel like going down the rabbit hole of trying a hundred different distros to maybe find one that works. My experiences with those two were that things were completely broken, randomly. Like just trying to boot the USB installer would lock up half the time, the installer itself would fail partway through most of the time, when things got fully installed, trying to update or install new things would just fail randomly. The kde desktop would crash just from me changing settings in the kde menus.

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                      I would try Ubuntu in your shoes, personally. It's got downsides but it's definitely plug and play. I don't know what metrics distrowatch uses to rate distros but it's widely known that Ubuntu is user friendly as hell.

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                        Would you mind sharing a couple of the names of the programs that only work on Windows for you? I'm a bit curious.

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                        Not OP, but for another data point: recently I did quite a bit of Linux-related research on the three Adobe apps I use (InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop, in this order of prominence), and they are all reported as some level of broken via Wine and their Linux alternatives are missing important features and/or a pain in the arse to use ๐Ÿ˜•

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                          Orange man bad... Does that refer to bill gates?

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                            Does it really matter? I have xemu (xbox emulator), retroarch for anything else, and PSX2 to be sure on Lubuntu, combine together how many games all those have and you just don't need steam

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                              i jumped ๐Ÿซก

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                                No.

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                                Thanks for this link, neat to see that Uncharted Waters Online apparently runs on Linux despite it's ridiculously strict anti-cheat. (To this day it's the only game I've played that had an issue with Process Explorer running in the background ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ)

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                                  Already did and it's glorious! Steam works beautifully and the only final thing that I'm missing is Adobe products.

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                                  maybe give debian testing a go for a little more up to date software ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                    With Win 11, you still get the security updates though right?

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                                    Yes, the "not supported" thing is just their terminology. They could decide to stop pushing them at any time. Though technically they could pull the plug on anything whenever, but they're explicitly saying "we might stop supporting these unsupported Windows 11 installations at any time."

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                                      I'll upgrade to 11 Enterprise via massgrave.

                                      Sadly with Adobe and some of my online games not supporting Linux, I have to stick with Windows ๐Ÿ˜• I'll just try to rip out all the telemetry, etc. via O&O and group policies.

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                                      Damn, Adobe doesn't support Linux at all? Guess I'm staying on Windows too ๐Ÿ˜•

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                                        Fedora is fully supported on my Framework laptop (as is Ubuntu and Mint), and I did have it working off an external SSD to try.

                                        But.... Sigh....

                                        It's American, so I won't use it. American is one big reason why I want to quit Windows. Maybe I'll just keep trying. ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

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                                        Bruh, uh... maybe OpenSUSE lol?

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                                          Full Linux, I'm not installing that anti-privacy, ad-ridden Windows 11 OS. It's dangerous to use an unsupported system, so I'm going to be deleting my Windows partition. I know I'll run into some issues on Linux, but I'm forcing myself to learn more and work through them!

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