6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?
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Just upgrade yall are so dramatic for no reason at all. If 11 is that bad just switch to Linux.
People might get a little emotional about it but I bounce between Linux Mint, windows 10, and windows 11 and honestly I totally agree that windows 11 is trash. When my windows 10 computer reaches it's limit, I might try to figure out how to run games on Linux/proton or whatever that is.
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I got a new PC recently so unfortunately I am now on Windows 11. I’ve been wanting to make the swap to Linux but I can’t really make a clean break because at least some of the games I play a lot won’t work on Linux. I do think I’m gonna try to set up another hard drive with Linux on it to try to slowly start learning it and ideally move over anything that I can over there eventually and just keep the windows drive for those few games.
Does anyone have any recommendations related to that? Distro for gaming/ease of use? What’s the best option for setting up the dual boot? Anything I wouldn’t have thought of that’s relevant?
Just in case you are thinking this like I used to, don't go by "unplayable on steam deck" to determine what games you won't be able to play on a Linux desktop. While those games include incompatible with Linux games, they also include ones that the deck hardware can't handle at a decent framerate but otherwise play fine on Linux.
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Gaming on Linux has never been better. Out of the top 100 (mostly Windows platform) games, only 7 are entirely unplayable according to https://www.protondb.com/
80/100 are Gold or Platinum rated which means very playable. I often get better performance in Linux than Windows, even with the default open source drivers. I am using an AMD GPU which gives an advantage as they have better open source support, but for NVIDIA all the Linux distros I've used have had a documented path to install their binary drivers for better performance.
It's true that it sometimes takes a bit more tinkering, especially if you're using some esoteric controller or other funky hardware, but in the days of LLMs that can coach you through issues it's more accessible than it's ever been.
My Steam profile is apparently 30% platinum, 21% gold, 10% varying levels of broken, 39% unrated.
But Genshin Impact, one of my main games, doesn't even appear on ProtonDB, and as far as I heard you need a custom Linux launcher for it, that results in occasional banwaves, which I will not risk
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I don't really feel like going down the rabbit hole of trying a hundred different distros to maybe find one that works. My experiences with those two were that things were completely broken, randomly. Like just trying to boot the USB installer would lock up half the time, the installer itself would fail partway through most of the time, when things got fully installed, trying to update or install new things would just fail randomly. The kde desktop would crash just from me changing settings in the kde menus.
I would try Ubuntu in your shoes, personally. It's got downsides but it's definitely plug and play. I don't know what metrics distrowatch uses to rate distros but it's widely known that Ubuntu is user friendly as hell.
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Would you mind sharing a couple of the names of the programs that only work on Windows for you? I'm a bit curious.
Not OP, but for another data point: recently I did quite a bit of Linux-related research on the three Adobe apps I use (InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop, in this order of prominence), and they are all reported as some level of broken via Wine and their Linux alternatives are missing important features and/or a pain in the arse to use
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i jumped 🫡
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Thanks for this link, neat to see that Uncharted Waters Online apparently runs on Linux despite it's ridiculously strict anti-cheat. (To this day it's the only game I've played that had an issue with Process Explorer running in the background
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Already did and it's glorious! Steam works beautifully and the only final thing that I'm missing is Adobe products.
maybe give debian testing a go for a little more up to date software
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With Win 11, you still get the security updates though right?
Yes, the "not supported" thing is just their terminology. They could decide to stop pushing them at any time. Though technically they could pull the plug on anything whenever, but they're explicitly saying "we might stop supporting these unsupported Windows 11 installations at any time."
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I'll upgrade to 11 Enterprise via massgrave.
Sadly with Adobe and some of my online games not supporting Linux, I have to stick with Windows
I'll just try to rip out all the telemetry, etc. via O&O and group policies.Damn, Adobe doesn't support Linux at all? Guess I'm staying on Windows too
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Fedora is fully supported on my Framework laptop (as is Ubuntu and Mint), and I did have it working off an external SSD to try.
But.... Sigh....
It's American, so I won't use it. American is one big reason why I want to quit Windows. Maybe I'll just keep trying.
Bruh, uh... maybe OpenSUSE lol?
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Full Linux, I'm not installing that anti-privacy, ad-ridden Windows 11 OS. It's dangerous to use an unsupported system, so I'm going to be deleting my Windows partition. I know I'll run into some issues on Linux, but I'm forcing myself to learn more and work through them!
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Honestly, I still don't know. My 3070 worked well on linux the last time I used it so hardware won't be an issue. I also don't play many modern games so that's not a problem either. It's just my partner is schizo with what games they wanna play. Rn they're obsessed with minecraft and bedrock doesn't work on linux. I know for sure I'm not going to 11 though. I've used it before and absolutely hated the UI layout.
First off, bedrock is cancer it's just off-brand Minecraft.
But second, there is an unofficial launcher that works on Linux
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Well, that was kind of a general statement. Mint is boring. That's what it's good at. That's why it's loved and why it's recommended for new users. Specifically, it's similar to Windows in many ways. It's somewhat more customizable, but that's about it.
With you having used Linux twice before, you could consider something less Windows-like, less boring. I'll be talking about the desktop environment (DE) rather than distro, because it has much more influence on this. You can use these DEs on various distros.
- My personal favorite DE is KDE Plasma. The default-layout is also Windows-like, but it's got all of the bells and whistles and options you could imagine. It's kind of power-user heaven and almost like a toolbox to build whatever workflow you want.
- The other big, popular DE is GNOME. It's more macOS- and Android-like and focuses on a specific workflow. People who can get used to that workflow, then often really like it. The workflow itself is sometimes frustratingly uncustomizable, but it's also fairly customizable when it comes to the details, typically by virtue of also having lots of features, which can then be customized.
- Well, and I guess, I'll throw in Xfce, too, since that's likely what you used, back when you used Ubuntu Studio. (Ubuntu Studio uses KDE since the October 2020 release, but used Xfce before then.)
Xfce isn't necessarily what modern beauty standards would get flustered by, but many folks like it for its simplicity and because it is perhaps even more boring than Mint (without being Windows-like). There's a good chance that it still works a lot like back when you used it.
Perhaps also worth mentioning that Mint's DE is called "Cinnamon", although it's developed by the Mint devs, so if you like that a lot, it's typically worth sticking to Mint.
I did used to use xfce back in the day, yes. Never had a problem with it, but those were maybe simpler times. Might look into KDE this time, why not.
I was really thinking less of the DE and more along the lines of if you had any recommendations that weren't Ubuntu- or Debian-based, as that's pretty much all I've used I think. But maybe that's too much experimenting...
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He was the face of Microsoft for most of OP’s life.
This should be the test all millionaires and billionaires have to take yearly. If they fail, they are no longer fit to own or lead a business.
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What games are they?
One of the reasons i am sticking with Arch is because steamdeck os is build on it, whats good enough to game for valve is good enough for me.
There's a spattering of steam games that don't list Linux support. Probably the ones I play the most are Deep Rock Galactic and Last Epoch. Outside of Steam I play TFT a lot, which doesn't work on Linux since they added the anti-cheat software.
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Just in case you are thinking this like I used to, don't go by "unplayable on steam deck" to determine what games you won't be able to play on a Linux desktop. While those games include incompatible with Linux games, they also include ones that the deck hardware can't handle at a decent framerate but otherwise play fine on Linux.
Oh I was looking at system requirements on the store page. Is that accurate?
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Already prepared everything for the jump. Switched MS Office for LibreOffice, and Outlook for Betterbird. Tested install, configuration and access to backups in a VM. Next vacation I take I'll go for it. Mint is my choice of Distro, because of Steam/Gaming reasons. With the US being antagonistic, if not outright hostile, right now, and Microsoft having their disgusting Copilot AI Analysis Fingers in everything, it's the rational choice I think.
Didn't know about betterbird! Nice
