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Greta Thunberg departs Israel on flight to Paris after detention aboard aid ship

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  • M [email protected]

    No. They never entered anywhere Israel is legally allowed to exclude even in war It being full of aid and verifiable non combatants.

    It's kidnapping.

    Just like how the US abducted people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Your example is also kidnapping but even excluding that bit of nuance the key word is "in" they never entered territorial waters and thus were never "in" Israel or Palestine. Israel can declare 1500mi of the coast of Somalia an exclusion zone then kidnap people there and that would make just as much sense in a legal view.

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    Doesn’t Israel delegate 200 miles off the coast as a no go zone?

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      They declared war, they are allowed to enct vlockades according to international law.

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      International law doesn't permit the blockading of humanitarian aid. Israel was allowed to board and inspect the vessel, but not block it from entry.

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      • R [email protected]

        Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons, in my experience, backfires more often than not. It's a dangerous gamble.

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        Yes. The only tatoo idea I have for myself involves dice, chains, and the words "Let's tempt Fate." While I would prefer an ideal situation, it's taking too long. I will support any act that brings aid, supplies, or more notoriety to the plight of Gaza. Even Al-Capone had a soup kitchen for the hungry Chicagans of the Great Depression.

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          In a way sort of good news, no?

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          In the sense that they didn't disappear her or murder her, yes.

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          • spacecowboy@lemmy.caS [email protected]

            Gaza is under a declared blockade, Maritime Law (the oldest of international law) allows detaining any ship bound for a blockaded port. It's really cut and dry, they very publicly declared they were bound for a blockaded port. It's not like Israel boarded a ship that just happened to be in the area, these freedom flotilla yahoos very publicly declared they were bound for Gaza, which under Maritime Law permits Israel to board it.

            International law is an agreement between nations and doesn't actually restrict nations from doing things that will hurt your feelings. You're going down the sovcit path when you pretend international law is whatever you want it to be.

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            Maritime Law (the oldest of international law)

            Source?

            freedom flotilla yahoos [...] doing things that will hurt your feelings. [...] sovcit [...] pretend

            Ew.

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              Enact blockades in international waters?

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              How else are you supposed to enact blockades in the age of anti-ship missiles?

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                Public attention from them and others is why she’s being gently handled. You should thank those who raised the alarm on her behalf, not Israel.

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                Shoehorni g reality to fit their believes it seems.

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                  And Palestine is now saved, THANKS GRETA!

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                  • circav@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                    I hate that someone recorded this without her consent.

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                    Yup same, some people don't believe in some human rights, like portrait right.

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                      In a way sort of good news, no?

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                      You wanna say, "Could've been worse"

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                      • circav@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                        She’s defintely an adult. But yeah apprehended in international waters, taken to a country that she didn’t chose to enter willingly, and then deported.

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                        Ah, trafficing!

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                          And Palestine is now saved, THANKS GRETA!

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                          I was trying to unpack how many layers of stupid your comment is. But i felt my brain starting to rot. So i stopped.

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                          • goldmage263@sh.itjust.worksG [email protected]

                            Yes. The only tatoo idea I have for myself involves dice, chains, and the words "Let's tempt Fate." While I would prefer an ideal situation, it's taking too long. I will support any act that brings aid, supplies, or more notoriety to the plight of Gaza. Even Al-Capone had a soup kitchen for the hungry Chicagans of the Great Depression.

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                            If you want this conflict to end the last thing you want to give it is more noteriety. The only reason this is still happening is because of outside influences.

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                              And Palestine is now saved, THANKS GRETA!

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                              The fuck have you done?

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                              • circav@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                                I hate that someone recorded this without her consent.

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                                How do we know it was without consent?

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                                • R [email protected]

                                  If you want this conflict to end the last thing you want to give it is more noteriety. The only reason this is still happening is because of outside influences.

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                                  Can you please elaborate on that connection from your perspective. I imagine there must be some context I am overlooking.

                                  Willful ignorance of atrocities does not have any chance of stopping or slowing them.
                                  Source: Russian Gulags, North Korea, US native women murders/trafficking, Auschwitz.

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                                    The fuck have you done?

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                                    Did she ever accomplish anything other than going to places getting arrested and changing absolutely nothing?

                                    What is her job? Going around the world with seemingly unlimited funds and giving some interviews? Just sounds like a Kardashian with extra steps.

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                                    • J [email protected]

                                      EDIT: Kidnapping. The word you're ignoring in the title is kidnapping.

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                                      It's not kidnapping if Israel does it apparently 🤨

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                                      • C [email protected]

                                        Doesn’t Israel delegate 200 miles off the coast as a no go zone?

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                                        Illegally

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                                        • T [email protected]

                                          Did she ever accomplish anything other than going to places getting arrested and changing absolutely nothing?

                                          What is her job? Going around the world with seemingly unlimited funds and giving some interviews? Just sounds like a Kardashian with extra steps.

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                                          What is her job? Going around the world with seemingly unlimited funds and giving some interviews? Just sounds like a Kardashian with extra steps.

                                          Yes, she did. She provided mutual aid. She might not have saved the entire world, but no one ever does. She helped a few, and that is more than anyone could say about you.

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