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why the hell cant men stay out of women-only spaces?

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  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.comO [email protected]

    im so sick of seeing reports regarding men posting in women-only communities and i cant help but get annoyed with these guys.

    the rules are clearly presented. either youre not paying attention or youre just an asshole who purposefully throws their opinion in a place explicitly not wanting it.

    what the fuck is wrong with you guys?

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    "Why the hell can't blacks stay out of white only spaces"

    Successful woman-focused spaces incorporate men, because men are fathers of daughters; brothers of sisters; sons of mothers; and partners, friends, coworkers, mentors, and teammates of women. Men are relevant and important to addressing women's issues.

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      TIL there is women only spaces on the internet. How do you even enforce it?

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      • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.comO [email protected]

        im so sick of seeing reports regarding men posting in women-only communities and i cant help but get annoyed with these guys.

        the rules are clearly presented. either youre not paying attention or youre just an asshole who purposefully throws their opinion in a place explicitly not wanting it.

        what the fuck is wrong with you guys?

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        How do you know they're guys?
        Who decides who's a woman?

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        • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.comO [email protected]

          irrelevant. its none of your business what they converse amongst themselves

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            TIL there is women only spaces on the internet. How do you even enforce it?

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            Mandatory penis inspection, obviously.

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              "Why the hell can't blacks stay out of white only spaces"

              Successful woman-focused spaces incorporate men, because men are fathers of daughters; brothers of sisters; sons of mothers; and partners, friends, coworkers, mentors, and teammates of women. Men are relevant and important to addressing women's issues.

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              this says more about you than the original topic

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                How do you know they're guys?
                Who decides who's a woman?

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                they tend to self identify in various, context specific ways. language is powerful

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                • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.comO [email protected]

                  this says more about you than the original topic

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                  Don't like what you see in the mirror?

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                    are you one of the people doing this or should you have just stfu to start with as you have no actual information to contribute?

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                    • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.comO [email protected]

                      they tend to self identify in various, context specific ways. language is powerful

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                      How do you know they're not women trolling as men?

                      Isn't gender a social construct based on self-identification (rather than your physical body) that can be fluid & vary from day to day?
                      Isn't a woman anyone who claims to be?

                      Some activists even say there is no such thing as a “male body”

                      A penis is not a male body part. It’s just an unusual body part for a woman.

                      Messages are genderless.

                      Are you complaining about unverifiable gender claims on here?
                      Seems somewhat pointless & untenable.

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                      • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.comO [email protected]

                        im so sick of seeing reports regarding men posting in women-only communities and i cant help but get annoyed with these guys.

                        the rules are clearly presented. either youre not paying attention or youre just an asshole who purposefully throws their opinion in a place explicitly not wanting it.

                        what the fuck is wrong with you guys?

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                        Say I'm a trans female. Can I post then? Trans man? Gay man? Gay woman?

                        It's self policing. If they're being obnoxious or killing the environment or culture of the space, downvote/block/report and move on.

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                          Don't like what you see in the mirror?

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                          purple!

                          not sure how tossing irrelevant info matter, but there ya go!

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                          • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.comO [email protected]

                            im so sick of seeing reports regarding men posting in women-only communities and i cant help but get annoyed with these guys.

                            the rules are clearly presented. either youre not paying attention or youre just an asshole who purposefully throws their opinion in a place explicitly not wanting it.

                            what the fuck is wrong with you guys?

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                            the rules are clearly presented

                            I use Voyager. Community rules are hidden unless you specifically go to that community page, open the menu, and select "sidebar". It's incredibly easy to miss.

                            If a community only wants some people posting then a quick fix is to not allow just anyone to post to it.

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                            • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.comO [email protected]

                              purple!

                              not sure how tossing irrelevant info matter, but there ya go!

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                                Knowing that he loved coke and alcohol at this time makes this hairstyle make sense.

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                                  Say I'm a trans female. Can I post then? Trans man? Gay man? Gay woman?

                                  It's self policing. If they're being obnoxious or killing the environment or culture of the space, downvote/block/report and move on.

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                                  the rules are obvious, and trans inclusive.

                                  if it wasnt for the sheer volume of [presumed] idiots who cant seem to follow those rules i wouldnt have posted. the points is the reports and heavy moderation required.

                                  its like digital mansplaining

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                                  • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.comO [email protected]

                                    im so sick of seeing reports regarding men posting in women-only communities and i cant help but get annoyed with these guys.

                                    the rules are clearly presented. either youre not paying attention or youre just an asshole who purposefully throws their opinion in a place explicitly not wanting it.

                                    what the fuck is wrong with you guys?

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                                    People in general want to be included and some even more so when they’re told they’re not allowed in.

                                    It’s easy when it’s a physical space, ropes and security keep the riff raff out. With online spaces, it requires active moderation, mods who are willing to enforce the rules and ban those that violate them.

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                                    • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.comO [email protected]

                                      im so sick of seeing reports regarding men posting in women-only communities and i cant help but get annoyed with these guys.

                                      the rules are clearly presented. either youre not paying attention or youre just an asshole who purposefully throws their opinion in a place explicitly not wanting it.

                                      what the fuck is wrong with you guys?

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                                      As a woman there's no way you are not aware of exactly why that happens and the kind of guys that would do it on purpose...

                                      On accident? State it more clearly? Maybe throw in an explanation about why it's that way so you don't end up endlessly arguing the same stuff forever.

                                      Damn that's some turbo manmansplaining right here xD

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                                        the rules are clearly presented

                                        I use Voyager. Community rules are hidden unless you specifically go to that community page, open the menu, and select "sidebar". It's incredibly easy to miss.

                                        If a community only wants some people posting then a quick fix is to not allow just anyone to post to it.

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                                        I think generally if somebody does this genuinely they are politely told the rules but then some feel hard done by and start whining about it.

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                                        • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.comO [email protected]

                                          im so sick of seeing reports regarding men posting in women-only communities and i cant help but get annoyed with these guys.

                                          the rules are clearly presented. either youre not paying attention or youre just an asshole who purposefully throws their opinion in a place explicitly not wanting it.

                                          what the fuck is wrong with you guys?

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                                          Do you have examples of women only communities? Because I have probably inadvertently done so. Admittedly, I probably also haven’t read the rules as my mobile client makes that stuff kind of hidden.

                                          I love the posts that come out witchesvspatriachy for example. That’s definitely female dominated, but I didn’t read the rules because, well, they didn’t show up in the all feed, so I don’t know if I shouldn’t post.

                                          I also think it’s good to get some outside opinion, occasionally, but female spaces need to remain female dominated for good reason.

                                          /me shrugs. Sorry if I’ve been the point of your annoyance

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