Need a keyboard with a dedicated "slop" button
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i saw someone on masto mad about the new background removal thing added to kdenlive
i despise llms and image models for quite a number of reasons but just aaaaaaaaaaaaa
There definitely is a very real "AI derangement syndrome" kinda thing going around among some. It's like...we can be opposed to the use of AI to take away people's jobs while simultaneously dumbing down culture, without throwing out the ways it can actually be used by workers to improve their work output or the experience for them of doing the work. I'm not familiar with Kdenlive, but it sounds similar to Photoshop's generative fill, and that's a fantastic feature. Using AI to do a better version of what content-aware fill has done for over a decade. People who are opposed even to these uses need to pull their heads in, because they make it much harder to effectively oppose the real problems with AI.
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OP in this case would be the Tumblr user sexygaywizard who made the post in the image
Usually we'd use the term "OOP" to refer to the OP of the original post in this context. Helps make it clearer.
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Yeah, the church of anti-AI is loud, obnoxious, and obstinate.
I couldn't give a fuck less if you want to amuse yourself with scuffed images of anime girls with three tits and lobster claws. Knock yourself out.
But if you think people are going to sit politely while institutions inflict these bullshit techbro fidget spinners unto us at the cost of our humanity and the planet then you've lost the plot.
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Art can be made out of literally anything. Trash, pieces of fabric, some chalk on a sidewalk, spray cans, arrangement of random objects, sea shells, etc. People will still love to look at shitty sketches and cute chibis and eagerly repost that art. Your medium doesn't have to be just paper and pencil, nor just an expensive digital screen and a paid paint program, but even then digital can be free. Kritia, MS Paint, Sketchbook, IbisPaint, Fossify Paint, and many more are free and easy to download on Android. Procreate is cheap and loved by many. There are people doing this shit on their phone with their finger and a lot of determination.
None of these artists started out making masterpieces, they had to take the time to get to where they are and learn. Thousands of free tutorials are online, on both YT and other social media platforms, for any kind of art medium. Years of work and practicing every day. Even for those who are making masterpieces now, they take probably days or weeks to finish off a major project, they can't just pump that shit out.
If you can't draw or photoshop images well, that's fine, as not everyone is able to do that skill. I want to learn to draw, but I can recognize that I probably don't have to time right now in my life to do that, nor will I likely be able to reach the level I dream of, and I accept that. But the moment you decide to get mad at the people opposing AI art and using AI to Photoshop, or you yourself ever use AI to do such acts, then I will gladly call you a lazy bastard. You can't have your cake without the effort that others put in to do it, and if you're doing it for commercial purposes, you should be dragged through the streets.
Art is art because a human put their thoughts and feelings behind it. It causes discussion, whether good, bad, happy, angry, etc. AI art is only amazing on the surface, "wow, we have the tech to do this" and then it stops being amazing. Either way am artist/digital designer or don't make whatever it is you wanted. Using AI to make art is embarrassing.
While we're discussing what is and isn't art, I just want to also chime in and point out that art can also be literature, or music, or dance.
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So when this gets posted as a post it gets hundreds of upvotes but when I say the same thing as a lemmy comment I get hate?
Yes. Because one is posted as a joke, and one is an un-ironic "observation." I'll let you figure out which is which. Maybe go ask an AI if you have trouble figuring that one out.
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I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me
Because you wrote your reply like a criticism, but the content seem to agree with what I wroteIt was definitely in agreement. There are way better uses for our resources, people, and talent than on things like AI. That’s not to say that no one should have a tech job in AI, but the overwhelming push to expand and adopt it is insane.
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So when this gets posted as a post it gets hundreds of upvotes but when I say the same thing as a lemmy comment I get hate?
The comparison is bunk though.
The awareness of systemic oppression is not equivalent to a technology that produces text and images of dubious provenance.
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The comparison is bunk though.
The awareness of systemic oppression is not equivalent to a technology that produces text and images of dubious provenance.
But conservatives reacting to the word "pronouns" isn't at all about systemic oppression? It's about the immediate brain off that follows to instantly rant about "woke" or whatever, even if e.g. someone mentioned pronouns in a grammar context. It's a stupid reaction born from opposition to a perceived "woke mind virus" (or equivalent).
Similarly, some people read "AI" and immediately think whatever follows is worthless garbage. Which, even ignoring that not everything labeled AI is always ML, is a stupid reaction born from opposition to the LLM (and general genAI) hype.
Sure, the "woke mind virus" is pure delusion, and I, too, want to throw up from the genAI hype every time someone mentions "AI" or "ChatGPT", but AI isn't even well defined and even ML has plenty of useful applications.
It's the same anti-intellectual "I hate the things I associate with this word so anyone not hating on the word is stupid" while disregarding what the word actually means in the given context.
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But conservatives reacting to the word "pronouns" isn't at all about systemic oppression? It's about the immediate brain off that follows to instantly rant about "woke" or whatever, even if e.g. someone mentioned pronouns in a grammar context. It's a stupid reaction born from opposition to a perceived "woke mind virus" (or equivalent).
Similarly, some people read "AI" and immediately think whatever follows is worthless garbage. Which, even ignoring that not everything labeled AI is always ML, is a stupid reaction born from opposition to the LLM (and general genAI) hype.
Sure, the "woke mind virus" is pure delusion, and I, too, want to throw up from the genAI hype every time someone mentions "AI" or "ChatGPT", but AI isn't even well defined and even ML has plenty of useful applications.
It's the same anti-intellectual "I hate the things I associate with this word so anyone not hating on the word is stupid" while disregarding what the word actually means in the given context.
You are still comparing apples to oranges. Try again.
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So when this gets posted as a post it gets hundreds of upvotes but when I say the same thing as a lemmy comment I get hate?
First of all the title implies this is a joke, secondly posts always get more upvotes than comments, some apps even auto like a post if you click on it to open the comments.
threads, comments, posts and etc all have completely different ecosystems.
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Art can be made out of literally anything.
Such as LLMs.
Art is art because a human put their thoughts and feelings behind it.
You don't think there's any thought put into AI art by the creators?
Art is art, it doesn't matter what tool or medium was used, what matters is it reflects the artists intention or vision.
Art is art, it doesn't matter what tool or medium was used, what matters is it reflects the artists intention or vision.
Well, is it really your vision or intention if it pulled from the efforts and thoughts of a million others to generate your picture?
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ITT: exactly what the tweet was about.
(Edit: It was a tumblr post.)Y'all just saw "AI" and started frothing at the mouth about LLMs when, in the context of the tweet, it might just as well have referred to path finding AI in a video game.
Seriously, I don't get the issue but I understand the phenomenon. It's like painters when the camera was invented,
"cameras will put us out of work, cameras are lower quality, anyone with a camera can just take a picture!"
Painters are still around, painted art is still desired and expensive. It will be the same over time with AI, we just have to wait for people to get over it.
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Seriously, I don't get the issue but I understand the phenomenon. It's like painters when the camera was invented,
"cameras will put us out of work, cameras are lower quality, anyone with a camera can just take a picture!"
Painters are still around, painted art is still desired and expensive. It will be the same over time with AI, we just have to wait for people to get over it.
Can be applied to any new technology. This comic was made before generative AI was a thing.
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I chat with ai whenever I don't have a friend to chat with. (a lot)
Oh. Well at least you have the comments sections for now, though who knows how long before thats talking to AI as well. Apparently facebook is that way.
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But conservatives reacting to the word "pronouns" isn't at all about systemic oppression? It's about the immediate brain off that follows to instantly rant about "woke" or whatever, even if e.g. someone mentioned pronouns in a grammar context. It's a stupid reaction born from opposition to a perceived "woke mind virus" (or equivalent).
Similarly, some people read "AI" and immediately think whatever follows is worthless garbage. Which, even ignoring that not everything labeled AI is always ML, is a stupid reaction born from opposition to the LLM (and general genAI) hype.
Sure, the "woke mind virus" is pure delusion, and I, too, want to throw up from the genAI hype every time someone mentions "AI" or "ChatGPT", but AI isn't even well defined and even ML has plenty of useful applications.
It's the same anti-intellectual "I hate the things I associate with this word so anyone not hating on the word is stupid" while disregarding what the word actually means in the given context.
I think you're assuming people are having a knee jerk, ignorant response, because you have come to a different conclusion than they have.
My dislike of consumer AI is very well informed. I've built my own local models and used generative AI extensively for work (no choice). I was actually pretty excited for the technology before the corps started using it as their latest accelerationist cudgel in the class war.
As it stands, I think it's hard to justify using AI, even as a casual consumer. For many reasons that are already well documented.
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Art is art, it doesn’t matter what tool or medium was used, what matters is it reflects the artists intention or vision.
Based. Nothing triggers redditors and chuds alike than recognizing the value in all art.
Based. Nothing triggers redditors and chuds alike than recognizing the value in all art.
^ This matches my intentions and vision completely, so it's mine now.
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Can be applied to any new technology. This comic was made before generative AI was a thing.
As always, there's an xkcd for that....lol
To quickly further expand on my previous example with a few I thought of afterwards,
- the wax cylinder will kill live music
- the radio will kill live music
- the TV will kill radio
- the airplane will kill the cruise lines
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"AI" in videogames is basically never powered by large models like LLMs or Stable Diffusion or others. The fact you compare them only demonstrates how fucking little you actually know about this topic you are BLINDLY defending.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Not sure why you're getting downvoted, most video game enemies do not learn. They can have some clever algorithms, but they don't know anything about how you've responded in the past and which of their tactics work better against you. Have they been trained on player interaction at all? I would love to see some learning NPCs in games and would be happy to dial down graphics settings to power them instead.
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Because it's true.
It's broadly true, and that's more to do with how it is used than what it is.
If an amoral corporation is providing it as a service, you can bet it's using energy as cheap and dirty as it can get away with, and using as much water as it wants.
But that's not the only way. You can run these things with renewable energy and no water. In those cases, the training is still a problem of course.
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It's wild that OP would think these two things are equivalent.
Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody, and the people frothing at the mouth are going out of their way to hurt people who did nothing wrong.
AI (in its most common meaning at this time in pop culture) at the minimum is wasting electricity (and it's associated climate impact), and has the potential to totally decimate the job market and usher in an era of inequality that we haven't seen for hundreds of years, while simultaneously stealing from artists. The people frothing at the mouth aren't hurting anyone.
To use a bit of hyperbole, it's kinda like if you said:
Some of y'all see "white power" and freak out without processing anything that's being said, like a conservative who sees a mixed race couple.
Like pretty clearly people have a good reason for freaking out when they see that, and the other side of the equation are just bad people.
[…] Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody […]
This feels like a hasty generalization. For example, if one is experiencing gender dysphoria, we could assume that misgendering them with their undesired pronouns would cause them psychological distress ^[1]^ — ie harm.
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Gender dysphoria (GD) is the distress a person experiences due to inconsistency between their gender identity—their personal sense of their own gender—and their sex assigned at birth.
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