"SO proof" distro
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I suggested 0patch not to bypass some arbitrary check, for which there are many options, but to provide access to security patches and updates after Microsoft stops publishing them for 10.
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Bluefin has even less. I consider this near-zero documentation.
What do you feel is missing from the documentation, can you be specific? You're examples are too generalized to be actionable.
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Yeah wouldn’t it be nice…
But the most considerate thing for the user is to help them use what they want to use. There’s also a real benefit to keeping ahold of that windows because people often have their own ways of doing things and it may be more expedient to boot back into 10 than to figure out how to complete some task in Linux.
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Has "non techy" evaded you ?
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If you're not going to give her sudo access then I'd say it'll be really hard maybe even impossible to screw up. Also maybe setup a from job that'll do auto updates and if needed add in a check to make sure it isn't uninstalling anything. Also how about immutable distro.
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eh, gnome is about the same.
i always wait for at least the .1 or .2
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Haven't used GNOME for a while, but I guess that's a problem of open source projects in general. Though GNOME at least has Red Hat behind it.
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In the era of Flatpak, I kind of agree with you.
The primary drawback is the complete lack of packages. A home user is going to want something not included and then things fall apart. Flatpaks and Distrobox have made that a lot better.
If you could get away with a RHEL core and Flatpak for apps, you would have a pretty solid setup for a “normal” person.
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You can install imperatively using nice profiles. So you the OP can set up the base distro in a way their SO can’t break. Then any extra software can be installed imperatively using nix profiles. Any installed software will work as normals. Checking the normal places for configurations if their SO even needs to go that far
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I've got my wife and 5 year old on slackware. They wouldn't know how to screw it up if they wanted to!
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Any immutable distro would do I guess
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Since less techy people tend to use more the mouse/touchpad anyways, I would pick a hard-to-mess-with desktop environment like mint or gnome. With KDE, XFCE and such you can screw panels really easily if you don't know what you're doing.
Slap Debian under it and there you go -
I prefer Manjaro, super easy.
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I both agree with you, and kinda disagree.
If you venture into installing Flatpaks on such a system, just keep in mind that:
- Auto updates must be on
- The Maintainer of the Flatpak in question must be expected to provide security updates for the next five years or so. Personally, I’d only use it for packages provided directly by project maintainers (i.e. Dropbox from Dropbox Inc. as packaged by Dropbox Inc.).
Keep in mind, like 95% of normal people (we are not normal) don’t know what a package manager is and only use
- ”The internet”
- Webmail
- Google Docs
- Spotify
For that, we need the default desktop install and the Spotify app (probably a Flatpak). That’s about it. It’s a glorified web browser with batteries. Treat it that way and keep it that way, unless your SO has any specific needs and requirements.
The limited and dated package set is kind of a feature. Only packages that should work until the laptop breaks, and only packages that won’t change randomly when you update (mostly).
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Really seems like we are agreeing. I get that the limited package set is a feature. I also get that it is both too small and too enterprise to satisfy most people you would describe as a “SO” precisely because they are probably normal people.
You gave the excellent example of Spotify and suggested a Flatpak for that. Honestly, I am not sure where we are in disagreement. Especially since I started by “mostly agreeing” myself. We even agree on that.
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Its popular rnow because of all the handhelds I think
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Mint.
I have my mum (67) and my partner using it.
Libre office and Firefox cover 99.9% of all the things mum actually does.
My partner uses blender, krita and audacity also.
Auto updates... Almost no tech support.
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Any of the ostree variants of Fedora, be they Fedora Official or downstream ones like the Universal Blue family
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Aurora is not a rolling release. It's part of Universal Blue, based on Fedora Silverblue.
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I'd rather recommend Manjaro to those who want to start out simple, but then get into the details of Linux.
Unless all you do is browsing, Manjaro starts easy but then has a steep curve because it's still Arch, with the added issue of practically every Manjaro newbie ignoring warnings about AUR.
It will require you to work with the terminal, troubleshoot, and get to understand your system. This is not bad - that's how I got into Linux and never looked back after all - but this is not a bulletproof "SO distro".
