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John Oliver promoted alternatives to big tech in last night's episode, including Mastodon and Pixelfed

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  • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.worksI [email protected]

    I wish he had mentioned Lemmy, but it's understandable that he didn't. Also Bluesky isn't an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn't stealing so much of our publicity lately.

    But beggars can't be choosers, and we have seen some nice growth over the past couple months. John Oliver fans are the perfect candidates to join the fediverse, hopefully some of them find their way to Lemmy.

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    Exactly, don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Someone using BlueSky over Twitter is a good thing.

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      What did Lemmy do that made him a monster?

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      • S [email protected]

        Come to Lemmy, we got: blood thirsty Linux users, furries, femboys, communists, and tankies. Also, porn.

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        The porn is sadly lacking, actuallly.

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          Don't forget the Trekkies.

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          #140

          There we go. I was waiting to be represented.

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          • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

            True. For now I'm happy to just see Twitter lose.

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            Yeah, the important thing is to get people off the Big Web, we can work on getting them their forever home later.

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            • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.worksI [email protected]

              I'm not familiar with the details of that, but it seems like more of a red herring that a start to me. A form of controlled opposition to divert people from truly revolutionary platforms.

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              You’re absolutely right, but as a UxD, until these platforms learn UxD, they’ll never work. They can’t.

              It doesn’t matter how great they are, the vast majority of people won’t learn. And they shouldn’t have to. That’s why big commercial apps are better – good designers need to eat, and big companies can pay for their eggs.

              It doesn’t matter how good your model is, without great UxD, you’re dead in the water.

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              • ikidd@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                The porn is sadly lacking, actuallly.

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                #143

                How much do you need!?????!

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                • R [email protected]

                  How can anyone not love the guy?

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                  I think he plays the awkward card to actual cringe levels at times but I'll also watch Cody's Showdy so that can't be it entirely.

                  Can't say I love him, but I do appreciate the work he does.

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                    Don't forget the Trekkies.

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                    #145

                    I see a lot more Trek memes here than on reddit and I love every one

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                    • F [email protected]

                      I've heard all kinds of bad rumours about Brave but idk if any of it is true.

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                      They're balls deep in crypto but even the crypto bros don't buy their bullshit

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/nxce6t/brave_browser_scam_a_fake_privacy_browser_sharing/

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                      • S [email protected]

                        Come to Lemmy, we got: blood thirsty Linux users, furries, femboys, communists, and tankies. Also, porn.

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                        #147

                        Thanks, Stefon.

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                        • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                          True. For now I'm happy to just see Twitter lose.

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                          I feel like there's a buddhist lesson about impermanence here.

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                            I think he plays the awkward card to actual cringe levels at times but I'll also watch Cody's Showdy so that can't be it entirely.

                            Can't say I love him, but I do appreciate the work he does.

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                            Haha, yeah Cody has definitely made me cringe out of discomfort before. I haven't watched that guy in awhile! Appreciate the reminder. And Oliver can get close to that level too, for sure.

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                              I wouldn’t mind having some ads, but I wonder how some more extremists users would react.

                              But I strongly believe that depending on donations is a very tough place to be, it places the burden of “begging” on the instance owners, which are already doing all the work and should definitely be compensated somehow.

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                              But I strongly believe that depending on donations is a very tough place to be

                              If you get a good deal on hosting then, on medium-sized instance donations easily cover costs. lemmy.world suggests this can scale up a lot even if you need more complex systems in place to deal with demand.

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                              • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                                If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                                Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

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                                #151

                                Not friendica, which seems an obvious facebook alternative.

                                Also, I think they're onto something with their fuck it approach that every social media platform would benefit from.
                                The internet was mostly that before.
                                Content moderation primarily serves advertisers, it was never really for the people.

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                                • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                                  If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                                  Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

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                                  #152

                                  Can anyone explain Bluesky vs Mastodon as Twitter alternatives, asking as someone who never really used Twitter much anyway?

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                                    Is sh.itjust.works not federated with lemmynsfw.com? Or maybe you use a Front page or Local feed. Here on world (no comment on the instance wars), lemmynsfw communities pretty regularly show up on my All feed. Seems like whatever they do with posts over there really makes the "Active" sorter happy, if you know what I mean

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                                    It definitely was federated back when I made my acct here, as I had to block it lmao.

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                                    • pika@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

                                      This right here, the everyday person doesn't know what federation is let alone believes that it's an alternative to federated platforms. They see it as a better Twitter that's not run by Musk and honestly that's all they need to know.

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                                      #154

                                      They haven't gone through the churn of corporate emshittification enough yet I'd have to guess.

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                                      • G [email protected]

                                        Can anyone explain Bluesky vs Mastodon as Twitter alternatives, asking as someone who never really used Twitter much anyway?

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                                        On the surface, both of them look very similar in format. They also both advertise themselves as decentralized and different from traditional social media, arguing that they won't face the same problems old social media did.

                                        Mastodon uses ActivityPub, which is the widely used standard that most other fediverse platforms use. Mastodon is properly decentralized, where all the servers can interact and operate independently.

                                        BlueSky made their own standard, citing that ActivityPub wasn't enough for what they wanted to do, and in some ways that's true. However with their structure, a centralized relay is needed in order for different instances to interact and so people argue that it isn't truly decentralized. BlueSky is either the only instance, or basically the only instance.

                                        BlueSky is also a VC backed company while Mastodon is now under a nonprofit. BlueSky has its roots in crypto tech.

                                        My personal opinion is that I really hope bluesky does what they're promising, but I'm not expecting them to be any different than Twitter once they get a critical mass of users and the investors demand profits / infinite growth.

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                                        • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                                          On the surface, both of them look very similar in format. They also both advertise themselves as decentralized and different from traditional social media, arguing that they won't face the same problems old social media did.

                                          Mastodon uses ActivityPub, which is the widely used standard that most other fediverse platforms use. Mastodon is properly decentralized, where all the servers can interact and operate independently.

                                          BlueSky made their own standard, citing that ActivityPub wasn't enough for what they wanted to do, and in some ways that's true. However with their structure, a centralized relay is needed in order for different instances to interact and so people argue that it isn't truly decentralized. BlueSky is either the only instance, or basically the only instance.

                                          BlueSky is also a VC backed company while Mastodon is now under a nonprofit. BlueSky has its roots in crypto tech.

                                          My personal opinion is that I really hope bluesky does what they're promising, but I'm not expecting them to be any different than Twitter once they get a critical mass of users and the investors demand profits / infinite growth.

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                                          #156

                                          wonder why he didn't mention Lemmy

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