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John Oliver promoted alternatives to big tech in last night's episode, including Mastodon and Pixelfed

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  • F [email protected]

    I've heard all kinds of bad rumours about Brave but idk if any of it is true.

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    #146

    They're balls deep in crypto but even the crypto bros don't buy their bullshit

    https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/nxce6t/brave_browser_scam_a_fake_privacy_browser_sharing/

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    • S [email protected]

      Come to Lemmy, we got: blood thirsty Linux users, furries, femboys, communists, and tankies. Also, porn.

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      #147

      Thanks, Stefon.

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      • internetcitizen2@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

        True. For now I'm happy to just see Twitter lose.

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        #148

        I feel like there's a buddhist lesson about impermanence here.

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        • D [email protected]

          I think he plays the awkward card to actual cringe levels at times but I'll also watch Cody's Showdy so that can't be it entirely.

          Can't say I love him, but I do appreciate the work he does.

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          Haha, yeah Cody has definitely made me cringe out of discomfort before. I haven't watched that guy in awhile! Appreciate the reminder. And Oliver can get close to that level too, for sure.

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          • B [email protected]

            I wouldn’t mind having some ads, but I wonder how some more extremists users would react.

            But I strongly believe that depending on donations is a very tough place to be, it places the burden of “begging” on the instance owners, which are already doing all the work and should definitely be compensated somehow.

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            But I strongly believe that depending on donations is a very tough place to be

            If you get a good deal on hosting then, on medium-sized instance donations easily cover costs. lemmy.world suggests this can scale up a lot even if you need more complex systems in place to deal with demand.

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            • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

              If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

              Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

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              #151

              Not friendica, which seems an obvious facebook alternative.

              Also, I think they're onto something with their fuck it approach that every social media platform would benefit from.
              The internet was mostly that before.
              Content moderation primarily serves advertisers, it was never really for the people.

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              • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

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                #152

                Can anyone explain Bluesky vs Mastodon as Twitter alternatives, asking as someone who never really used Twitter much anyway?

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                • S [email protected]

                  Is sh.itjust.works not federated with lemmynsfw.com? Or maybe you use a Front page or Local feed. Here on world (no comment on the instance wars), lemmynsfw communities pretty regularly show up on my All feed. Seems like whatever they do with posts over there really makes the "Active" sorter happy, if you know what I mean

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                  #153

                  It definitely was federated back when I made my acct here, as I had to block it lmao.

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                  • pika@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

                    This right here, the everyday person doesn't know what federation is let alone believes that it's an alternative to federated platforms. They see it as a better Twitter that's not run by Musk and honestly that's all they need to know.

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                    #154

                    They haven't gone through the churn of corporate emshittification enough yet I'd have to guess.

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                    • G [email protected]

                      Can anyone explain Bluesky vs Mastodon as Twitter alternatives, asking as someone who never really used Twitter much anyway?

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                      On the surface, both of them look very similar in format. They also both advertise themselves as decentralized and different from traditional social media, arguing that they won't face the same problems old social media did.

                      Mastodon uses ActivityPub, which is the widely used standard that most other fediverse platforms use. Mastodon is properly decentralized, where all the servers can interact and operate independently.

                      BlueSky made their own standard, citing that ActivityPub wasn't enough for what they wanted to do, and in some ways that's true. However with their structure, a centralized relay is needed in order for different instances to interact and so people argue that it isn't truly decentralized. BlueSky is either the only instance, or basically the only instance.

                      BlueSky is also a VC backed company while Mastodon is now under a nonprofit. BlueSky has its roots in crypto tech.

                      My personal opinion is that I really hope bluesky does what they're promising, but I'm not expecting them to be any different than Twitter once they get a critical mass of users and the investors demand profits / infinite growth.

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                      • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                        On the surface, both of them look very similar in format. They also both advertise themselves as decentralized and different from traditional social media, arguing that they won't face the same problems old social media did.

                        Mastodon uses ActivityPub, which is the widely used standard that most other fediverse platforms use. Mastodon is properly decentralized, where all the servers can interact and operate independently.

                        BlueSky made their own standard, citing that ActivityPub wasn't enough for what they wanted to do, and in some ways that's true. However with their structure, a centralized relay is needed in order for different instances to interact and so people argue that it isn't truly decentralized. BlueSky is either the only instance, or basically the only instance.

                        BlueSky is also a VC backed company while Mastodon is now under a nonprofit. BlueSky has its roots in crypto tech.

                        My personal opinion is that I really hope bluesky does what they're promising, but I'm not expecting them to be any different than Twitter once they get a critical mass of users and the investors demand profits / infinite growth.

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                        #156

                        wonder why he didn't mention Lemmy

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                        • L [email protected]

                          Not friendica, which seems an obvious facebook alternative.

                          Also, I think they're onto something with their fuck it approach that every social media platform would benefit from.
                          The internet was mostly that before.
                          Content moderation primarily serves advertisers, it was never really for the people.

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                          #157

                          The Internet was never supposed to have a central authority beyond the DNS tables.

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                          • E [email protected]

                            Yeah I think it's best we don't advertise this place. It's a little strange.

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                            #158

                            We need to get more people in here if we want it to actually be a Reddit competitor. Right now it’s good for some communities, but smaller ones are still extremely underpopulated.

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                            • D [email protected]

                              Isn't it easier to handle most users on on server than it is to have a bunch of equal servers? Then the problem just moves off the one server towards the communication between the servers being the bottleneck.

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                              The way lemmy (and federation) works, it needs to do a bunch of operations that can't happen simultaneously, so there's a job queue. The queue needs to do some database operations and a bunch of communication operations and each of the jobs needs to reach out to distant servers that may or may not be overwhelmed themselves.

                              You start with one server it costs almost nothing to host. Sooner or later you want to split out the job servers, then you end up needing to split out the database, when you start getting that many people on your server now you want to consider fault tolerance, Even after tuning you can only fit so many simultaneous users on a web server, you end up needing to do some load balancing. The next step would be trying to split it up geography-wise.

                              That's scaling up and it's what big companies do and it's very expensive but easy for a small team to manage.

                              Lemmy on the other hand is designed to be scaled out, running smaller individual user bases on lighter hardware with a bunch of individual administrators instead of a organized team.

                              If people want to be on a large single cluster application Reddit is still there.

                              I like what we have a lot better.

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                              • prioritymotif@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                                It costs me less than $10/mo to run mine and some of that is because I have to pay for an email forwarder until my hosting provider lets me start sending emails, part of that is factoring the cost of the domain name. The actual cloud server costs $5/mo right now.

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                                Yeah, you can get away with really cheap operations up until you start blowing through your cdn and communication budget

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                                • rhoeri@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                  I’m sure he’s going to be facing lawsuits from Краснов and Wormtongue.

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                                  I don't get it

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    Come to Lemmy, we got: blood thirsty Linux users, furries, femboys, communists, and tankies. Also, porn.

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                                    #162

                                    *porn involving some or all of the above

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                                    • ikidd@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                      The porn is sadly lacking, actuallly.

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                                      Be the change you want to see

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                                      • uis@lemm.eeU [email protected]

                                        I don't get it

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                                        Dipshit in chief and his butthurt-prone sidekick will probably sue.

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                                        • S [email protected]

                                          Is sh.itjust.works not federated with lemmynsfw.com? Or maybe you use a Front page or Local feed. Here on world (no comment on the instance wars), lemmynsfw communities pretty regularly show up on my All feed. Seems like whatever they do with posts over there really makes the "Active" sorter happy, if you know what I mean

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                                          That's what I was wondering. For a while I swear naked images of Rinkunn were more prevalent than The Picard Maneuver. I'm an All user mostly out of curiosity but disappointed that I think world defederated from one of the major furry ones cause that dropped considerably.

                                          Wait, is disappointed the right word? I guess it is, although maybe i just miss their positivity. I'm still cool with hexbear being defederated, after all. Lol

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