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  • S [email protected]

    Exactly the fucking following: put my fucking files in the directories I fucking created for my fucking files, show me the fucking file system the way it fucking looks when traversed by fucking ls

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    #144

    I literally do this on my Android, what are you people on about. My download go into my Downloads folder. I can browse my phone just like a computer....

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    • hark@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

      Don't you know? Users being told the exact location of a file is not user-friendly!

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      #145

      There are not files. There are only vibes. If your surf the vibe ocean well enough, you will find what you were looking for.

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      • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

        Ok I see the confusion, on your end. You assume this file is being saved to the global FS and this app has its own resources. So to save it globally you have to share it to the files app. i get that's confusing to normies. But it took me 20 seconds to figure it out. I'm guessing chatgpt didn't give the answer.

        I'm sorry, did you or did you not say the files app just shows everything? Does the meme imply that finding files on Android is difficult? Did you not just explain something extremely counterintuitive that's contradictory to your own first post? ๐Ÿ™„

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        #146

        I def did not say the "files app shows (everything)" . I hope the reading skills improve. If we are being pedantic.

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          You could use a different file manager. And there's a few places I would look for files : downloads, pictures, etc, or in a folder named for the app under one of those places

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          #147

          1000001590

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            Bit by bit? The move to mobile was like getting hit in the face with an inaccessibility bat. I hate mobile OSes with a passion. Unfortunately, they're overwhelmingly the way through which people interact with the Internet or do any kind of tech stuff anymore. I do a lot of audio work, and Android lacks even simple routing software. It just uses the last audio device plugged into it. Never mind you only want to use the mic on that and not the output. Forget using multiple devices. It's infuriating. You'll pry my desktop away from me through my cold, dead hands.

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            • J [email protected]

              Yeah, it can be hard to find files sometimes. File Navigator solves this problem perfectly.

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              #149

              Solid Explorer has always been my go to. I never understood why basic file explorer functions essentially required the use of a separate app, but it's functionality is superb and the now-baked-in-but-terrible file explorer in android can never hope to match it.

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              • S [email protected]

                sounds like your pitiful mind cant understand the unix file oriented philosophy and you should stay 10 feet away from all information technology /sarcasm

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                #150

                now look here you little... oh actually it would be nice to get away from tech honestly......

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                • R [email protected]

                  File manager > Recent files

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                  #151

                  Seriously, this thread has me very confused about how a social media platform seemingly inundated with nerds can't open a file manager (which often comes pre-installed) to find a downloads folder.

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                  • W [email protected]

                    It's built on a , by now very modified and incompatible, Linux kernel. But not a GNU userland at all.

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                    #152

                    Itโ€™s built on a , by now very modified and incompatible, Linux kernel.

                    Which is also forked again by various phone manufacturers that make their own modifications on top of it.

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                    • S [email protected]

                      Luckily, we technology enthusiasts are all special snowflakes and donโ€™t engage in anything as banal as copying other people and sarcasm ๐Ÿ™‚

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                      I'm never sarcastic.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        Pretty sure you've never used an Android, iPhone file managemt is locked down and dumbed down garbage, made so to make people more dependent on paying for and using the app store apps, without understanding the underlying system at all, and the primary reason I'm moving back to Android. Can't let some shit tech company dictate how I use my own devices file system, or what apps I can and can't install on it.

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                        #154

                        Using OwlFiles pretty much fixed it for me on the iPhone. Having extensively used android for many years, and now iPhone for a couple, I think both have their pros and cons.

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                          That's an interesting point about OneDrive automatically backing up folders. It reminds me of the time I was messing around with a weird game concept, something like a chicken jockey clicker, and I accidentally saved all the game files to a cloud folder without realizing it. Took forever to sort out the mess.

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                            File manager > Recent files

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                            literally I've had files that file manager cannot see or interact with at all. I think they always came from termux, which is what I used to unzip zip files. Definitely in the right directory but just plain invisible to file manager and other apps.

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                            • T [email protected]

                              You still can't write into it, which means you can't continue off a save file from another phone.

                              I suspect this is to make piracy harder. A lot of paid mobile games (Ported from PC) seems to want you to use Google's cloud these days.

                              The only exception is like Stardew Valley, where they put the save directory in a normal folder. Every other game make it impossible to move your saves.

                              Heck, Into The Breach is even locked to Netflix. You need a fucking Netflix subscription for that. No thanks lol, I'll enjoy my illegal download. (I have to type in a cheat code to unlock the stuff every time I set up a new phone, but its a roguelike, so not much data is lost anyways)

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                              "The only exception is like Stardew Valley, where they put the save directory in a normal folder."

                              It's been years since I played Stardew Valley, but stuff like this is why I consider myself a fan.

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                              • grrgyle@slrpnk.netG [email protected]

                                Not a fan of google products, but I can't fathom using the phone's stock browser. Is it โ€ฆ good?

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                                It's good, I mainly use Samsung browser, although use google search widget will default to use chrome, so basically I use both

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                                • L [email protected]

                                  And like I said

                                  this command didn't really do what I wanted it to do then

                                  I just want to do something like find {package name} | grep "config.conf" or something like that. I normally know what the program is called, I just don't know where it is located.

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                                  No it does exactly that. The issue is that the config you are looking at was not created by a package.

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                                  • P [email protected]

                                    Seriously, this thread has me very confused about how a social media platform seemingly inundated with nerds can't open a file manager (which often comes pre-installed) to find a downloads folder.

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                                    It was a bigger problem when they first instituted private app storage and limited apps access to other apps data.

                                    Eg. My dashcam app had an export button. The files went into that apps private storage which was unavailable to non-root file explorers even with permissions. The app had to change significantly.

                                    Everything's more or less playing well together now but people still have PTSD.

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                                    • S [email protected]

                                      I def did not say the "files app shows (everything)" . I hope the reading skills improve. If we are being pedantic.

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                                      #161

                                      You said "shows all files that were recently downloaded from any app to the file system". I pointed out that the meme you were replying to specifically said save not download and that the Files app definitely does not do that.

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                                        Using OwlFiles pretty much fixed it for me on the iPhone. Having extensively used android for many years, and now iPhone for a couple, I think both have their pros and cons.

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                                        What's a pro of the iOS app based file system, it's never not been an artificially created frustrating and limiting experience for me. I had to print a bunch of documents that were scattered across a couple of folders on my gDrive recently and I thought I'll download them to my iPhone, move the necessary docs from the sub folders into a single folder that I'll zip and send to the printing service email, the amount of frustration I had to deal with just to do something simple like that made me want to chuck my phone into a wall. Also one time I had to send a single pdf from my android phone to my sister's iphone, in a place with no cell signal or wifi. and that to was a god awful experience, purposefully designed so by apple so people stick to only using airdrop and Icloud. I had to basically setup a file server + wifi Hotspot on my android phone to be able to transfer that one file and because it was an android I could actually do that in the first place. So many apps I used to use can't work on iphones cause apple just won't allow it.

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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          That's like piling all your paperwork on your office desk in a giant tower in the order they came in and arguing that's just as good as sorting them into files and putting them in the cabinet.

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                                          There was a legend I heard of in an engineering office. There was an engineer at this company I worked at, long before I was there. On the first day of work, he created his first file, file 000001. He pulled out a notebook, and wrote the file number and the document title. Later that day, he moved on to file 000002. And so he continued. For many years, one document after another, all in sequential order. No one ever bothered to inquire about his numbering system. He simply sent files off when needed, renaming as necessary. No one ever needed to poke through his work computer. Then, one day, he got laid off in a company downsizing.. He simply took the notebook with him, took it home, and burned it.

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