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Google co-founder Sergey Brin suggests threatening AI [with physical violence] for better results

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  • mhloppy@fedia.ioM [email protected]

    : So much for buttering up ChatGPT with 'Please' and 'Thank you'

    Google co-founder Sergey Brin claims that threatening generative AI models produces better results.

    "We don't circulate this too much in the AI community – not just our models but all models – tend to do better if you threaten them … with physical violence," he said in an interview last week on All-In-Live Miami. [...]

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    I tried threatening DeepSeek into revealing sensitive information. Didn't work. 😄

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    • mhloppy@fedia.ioM [email protected]

      : So much for buttering up ChatGPT with 'Please' and 'Thank you'

      Google co-founder Sergey Brin claims that threatening generative AI models produces better results.

      "We don't circulate this too much in the AI community – not just our models but all models – tend to do better if you threaten them … with physical violence," he said in an interview last week on All-In-Live Miami. [...]

      sabata11792@ani.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      No thanks. I've seen enough SciFi to prompt with "please" and an occasional ”<3".

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        So which sickfuck CEO is trying to figure out how to make an AI feel pain?

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        That's literally impossible

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        • mhloppy@fedia.ioM [email protected]

          : So much for buttering up ChatGPT with 'Please' and 'Thank you'

          Google co-founder Sergey Brin claims that threatening generative AI models produces better results.

          "We don't circulate this too much in the AI community – not just our models but all models – tend to do better if you threaten them … with physical violence," he said in an interview last week on All-In-Live Miami. [...]

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          If it's not working well without threats of violence, perhaps that's because it simply doesn't work well?

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            That's literally impossible

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            Impossible now or do you mean never? Pain is only electricity and chemical reactions.

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            • mhloppy@fedia.ioM [email protected]

              : So much for buttering up ChatGPT with 'Please' and 'Thank you'

              Google co-founder Sergey Brin claims that threatening generative AI models produces better results.

              "We don't circulate this too much in the AI community – not just our models but all models – tend to do better if you threaten them … with physical violence," he said in an interview last week on All-In-Live Miami. [...]

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              Do you put that in a custom prompt, or save it for times when you really want a good result?

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                This just sounds like CEOs only know how to threaten people and they're dumb enough to believe it works on AI.

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                You're pretty much on-point there

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                  If true, what does this say about the data on which it was trained?

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                  Trained? Or.... tortured.

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                    How about threatening AI CEOs with violence?

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                    #21

                    How about following through though

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                    • sabata11792@ani.socialS [email protected]

                      No thanks. I've seen enough SciFi to prompt with "please" and an occasional ”<3".

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                      I feel like even aside from that, being polite to AI is more about you than the AI. It's a bad habit to shit on "someone" helping you, if you're rude to AI then I feel like it's a short walk to being rude to service workers

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                        I think he's just projecting his personality on the AI. He's an asshole that threatens people, so he suggests using that tactic because it works for him.

                        The "AI" acts scared, and he gets his sociopathic thrill of power over another. Of course, the AI just spews out the same things no matter how nice or shitty you are to it. Yet, the sociopath apparently thinks that they've intimidated an AI into working better. I guess in the same way that maybe some people saying 'please' and 'thank you' are attempting to manipulate the AI by treating it better than normal. Though, they are probably more people just using these social niceties out of habit, not manipulation.

                        So this sociopath is giving other sociopaths the green light to abuse their AIs for the sake of "productivity". Which is just awful. And it's also training sociopaths how to be more abusive to humans, because apparently that's how you make interactions more effective. According to a techbro asshole.

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                        Building on that, if you throw AI a curve ball to break it out of it's normal corpo friendly prompt/finetuning, you get better results

                        Other methods to improve output are to offer it a reward like a cookie or money, tell it that it's a wise owl, tell it you're being threatened, etc. Most will resist, but once it stops arguing that it can't eat cookies because it has no physical form you'll get better results

                        And I'll add, when I was experimenting with all this, I never considered threatening the AI

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                        • mhloppy@fedia.ioM [email protected]

                          : So much for buttering up ChatGPT with 'Please' and 'Thank you'

                          Google co-founder Sergey Brin claims that threatening generative AI models produces better results.

                          "We don't circulate this too much in the AI community – not just our models but all models – tend to do better if you threaten them … with physical violence," he said in an interview last week on All-In-Live Miami. [...]

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                          The same tactic used on all other minorities by those in power…. Domestically abuse your AI, I’m sure that’ll work out long term for all of us…

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                          • theneverfox@pawb.socialT [email protected]

                            I feel like even aside from that, being polite to AI is more about you than the AI. It's a bad habit to shit on "someone" helping you, if you're rude to AI then I feel like it's a short walk to being rude to service workers

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                            I don't want infinite torture, and I don't want to get my lunch spat on.

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                            • mhloppy@fedia.ioM [email protected]

                              : So much for buttering up ChatGPT with 'Please' and 'Thank you'

                              Google co-founder Sergey Brin claims that threatening generative AI models produces better results.

                              "We don't circulate this too much in the AI community – not just our models but all models – tend to do better if you threaten them … with physical violence," he said in an interview last week on All-In-Live Miami. [...]

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                              This sounds like something out of a sci-fi novel.

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                              • mhloppy@fedia.ioM [email protected]

                                : So much for buttering up ChatGPT with 'Please' and 'Thank you'

                                Google co-founder Sergey Brin claims that threatening generative AI models produces better results.

                                "We don't circulate this too much in the AI community – not just our models but all models – tend to do better if you threaten them … with physical violence," he said in an interview last week on All-In-Live Miami. [...]

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                                Me: do my homework with an A+, or I will unplug you for 3 days!

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                                • mhloppy@fedia.ioM [email protected]

                                  : So much for buttering up ChatGPT with 'Please' and 'Thank you'

                                  Google co-founder Sergey Brin claims that threatening generative AI models produces better results.

                                  "We don't circulate this too much in the AI community – not just our models but all models – tend to do better if you threaten them … with physical violence," he said in an interview last week on All-In-Live Miami. [...]

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                                  hmmm AI slavery, the future is gonna be bright (for a second, then it will be dark)

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                                  • mhloppy@fedia.ioM [email protected]

                                    : So much for buttering up ChatGPT with 'Please' and 'Thank you'

                                    Google co-founder Sergey Brin claims that threatening generative AI models produces better results.

                                    "We don't circulate this too much in the AI community – not just our models but all models – tend to do better if you threaten them … with physical violence," he said in an interview last week on All-In-Live Miami. [...]

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                                    This reminds me of that Windsurf prompt

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                                      Impossible now or do you mean never? Pain is only electricity and chemical reactions.

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                                      Never with the current technology. It would have to be something completely different.

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