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Petition against payment processors who forced Steam games ban roars past 140,000 signatures

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    Thats fair. I mostly agree but I dont have any good arguments to defend porn games themselves. Seems to depend on whether someone views porn positively or not.

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    This isn't about porn games. It's about payment processors deciding what we can and can't buy. That's not their business.

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      PayPal just announced they’ll be offering crypto payments worldwide. They’ll be offering common wallet integration for 100+ currencies. This is how we sidestep Visa and Mastercard.

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      It would be nice if companies accepted regional payment options, for example, Canada has Interac e-transfer to easily transfer funds from one bank account to another, local businesses in Canada have offered this as an option for payment option but anything international it’s either PayPal or CC.

      Interac E-transfer is so simple to use and definitely beats having to use third-party apps like Venmo and CashApp.

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        It would be nice if companies accepted regional payment options, for example, Canada has Interac e-transfer to easily transfer funds from one bank account to another, local businesses in Canada have offered this as an option for payment but anything international it’s either PayPal or CC.

        Interac E-transfer is so simple to use and definitely beats having to use third-party apps like Venmo and CashApp.

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          "rOaRs"

          Give me a fucking break.

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          • A [email protected]

            Yes you are so much smarter than everyone else.

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            And if you kill the serial killer you become just like him!

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              Dude am I the only one who is glad this s*** is off steam? I grew up on Steam back when it only had Half Life on it, and it makes me sad that they devolved into literally Rape Games and other demented content. Are we all just going to pretend this isn't or wasn't an issue? The last thing our society needs is "more porn". This is the type of s**** we should be fighting against and I say that as a man who on a dark and stormy night pulls up some inappropriate content.

              As if there are not enough places to get porn on the internet.

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              DID YOU KNOW? You can filter out mature content on Steam in the Preferences.

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                Could you please provide context or a link?

                I don’t like him, but I think it has to do with him being pro-killing games and pro-multi-million-dollar-company?

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                Basically. He spoke out against the Stop Killing Games movement, saying it wouldn’t be feasible for companies to support games in perpetuity… Which wasn’t the point of SKG. But PirateSoftware has a massive following and has the classic reddit “if I sound well-informed and speak with confidence, it doesn’t matter if I’m correct” mentality. It was many people’s first time hearing about SKG, so the confident misinformation turned a lot of his followers away from the movement.

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                  PayPal just announced they’ll be offering crypto payments worldwide. They’ll be offering common wallet integration for 100+ currencies. This is how we sidestep Visa and Mastercard.

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                  PayPal is part of the problem though. They too have forced Patreon back in the day to clamp down on certain stuff. That's one of the reasons why SubscribeStar got bigger.

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                  • ohshit604@sh.itjust.worksO [email protected]

                    It would be nice if companies accepted regional payment options, for example, Canada has Interac e-transfer to easily transfer funds from one bank account to another, local businesses in Canada have offered this as an option for payment but anything international it’s either PayPal or CC.

                    Interac E-transfer is so simple to use and definitely beats having to use third-party apps like Venmo and CashApp.

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                    Most do, Steam accepts a fair few regional ones like the Dutch iDEAL. But it barely matters if a lot of people pay with Visa/MasterCard instead.

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                    • E [email protected]

                      And if they say that, then we will indeed switch where we're able. Simple as

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                      ....to who exactly?

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                      • chairmanmeow@programming.devC [email protected]

                        Most do, Steam accepts a fair few regional ones like the Dutch iDEAL. But it barely matters if a lot of people pay with Visa/MasterCard instead.

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                        Do you have to somehow enable them? There is a common standard for paying directly from your online bank here in Finland, but Steam doesn't seem to support it.

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                        • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                          People are doing that too, there was just an article posted a bit ago talking about that.

                          Causing multi hour waits with the goal of hurting them by delaying actual customers getting help

                          ETA

                          Found the post https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/520460

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                          I believe jamming up the new customer lines does more damage. It destroys their quotas and blocks new revenue.

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                          • L [email protected]

                            change.org is worthless call the CC companies directly

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                            Imagine if you could do 2 separate 5-minute tasks to pressure giant corporations.

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                              It would be nice if companies accepted regional payment options, for example, Canada has Interac e-transfer to easily transfer funds from one bank account to another, local businesses in Canada have offered this as an option for payment but anything international it’s either PayPal or CC.

                              Interac E-transfer is so simple to use and definitely beats having to use third-party apps like Venmo and CashApp.

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                              It makes no sense for any country to give American companies money for the pleasure of processing their own internal payments.

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                              • amju_wolf@pawb.socialA [email protected]

                                ....to who exactly?

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                                Think I saw another user suggest amex? Idk what it is, but maybe look into that?

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                                  ....to who exactly?

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                                  Someone who isn't Visa or MasterCard, like Discover or American Express. I myself will be getting a Discover card if this doesn't resolve soon, and have said as much to Visa.

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                                    Think I saw another user suggest amex? Idk what it is, but maybe look into that?

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                                    Pretty sure that's American Express.

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                                    • R [email protected]

                                      Thats fair. I mostly agree but I dont have any good arguments to defend porn games themselves. Seems to depend on whether someone views porn positively or not.

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                                      For context, I've never played a porn game nor do I have any interest in doing so. As others have said, it sets a very dangerous precedent for censorship via payment processors.

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                                      • O [email protected]

                                        This isn't about porn games. It's about payment processors deciding what we can and can't buy. That's not their business.

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                                        Its literally their business who they do business with.

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                                          PayPal is part of the problem though. They too have forced Patreon back in the day to clamp down on certain stuff. That's one of the reasons why SubscribeStar got bigger.

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                                          That’s bad, but they aren’t part of this recent censorship. If you demand a perfect solution you will be disappointed. Let’s be pragmatic. Let’s force these companies to compete for our patronage.

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