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First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

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  • bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.orgB [email protected]

    What makes you think that "European independent payment processor" would not pressure companies to follow similar (or worse) rules for "compliance"?

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    That is possible, of course, but European companies and citizens are less crazy so far. No guarantees, but the chance is here. Plus, more competition might force older processors to drop irrelevant to their work arbitrary stupid limitations.

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      European independent payment processor? Nooooo, US's ass is so tasty to kiss...

      USA is a lost cause already, but EU still has a chance. Get rid of USA-related anything. Let them sit there and eat corn and watch superhero movies.

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      EU banks are working on it

      https://www.ecb.europa.eu/paym/integration/retail/retail_payments_strategy/html/index.en.html

      There's some sort of SEPA instant payments that come into effect this fall, I think, too.

      https://www.ecb.europa.eu/paym/integration/retail/instant_payments/html/instant_payments_regulation.en.html

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        Itch's general discussion board is insane to read right now. Filled with death threats and threats of lawsuits against itch. Who knows what kind of instant action the payment processors were demanding, do you really think they had a choice in this?

        Instead of supporting the staff and showing some patience the nsfw players and devs turned on themselves. I wouldn't blame itch for permanently kicking all nsfw content off the platform after this lack of support from the community. The naivety is stunning. Like itch staff can just wave a magic wand to keep paid nsfw games as an option.

        What we need is collective action against these mega corporations, instead of kicking down at a barely profitable game reseller that allows you to set revenue share to 0%.

        All this not too long after the Funko domain takedown too, the itch staff really can't catch a break. I hope this isn't the end of itch just yet.

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          Itch's general discussion board is insane to read right now. Filled with death threats and threats of lawsuits against itch. Who knows what kind of instant action the payment processors were demanding, do you really think they had a choice in this?

          Instead of supporting the staff and showing some patience the nsfw players and devs turned on themselves. I wouldn't blame itch for permanently kicking all nsfw content off the platform after this lack of support from the community. The naivety is stunning. Like itch staff can just wave a magic wand to keep paid nsfw games as an option.

          What we need is collective action against these mega corporations, instead of kicking down at a barely profitable game reseller that allows you to set revenue share to 0%.

          All this not too long after the Funko domain takedown too, the itch staff really can't catch a break. I hope this isn't the end of itch just yet.

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          Showing opposition is good, if they find the community is so against this maybe they'll not grin and bear the nonsense of the payment processors. They could move to new payment processors, or use crypto to pay.

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            Showing opposition is good, if they find the community is so against this maybe they'll not grin and bear the nonsense of the payment processors. They could move to new payment processors, or use crypto to pay.

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            Why are you assuming they are grinning about it? They were hosting this all before in a very laissez fair approach. Unbelievable. It's not "bearing" the payment processors, it's existential. Either they do as they say or they go offline, how hard is this to understand?

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              Why are you assuming they are grinning about it? They were hosting this all before in a very laissez fair approach. Unbelievable. It's not "bearing" the payment processors, it's existential. Either they do as they say or they go offline, how hard is this to understand?

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              The most the payment processors can do is refuse to work for them. All the free games will still be available and they'll have to find new payment processors.

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                Can we not overlook that this was activist driven. Looks like this Collective Shout is only a 40,000 person organization. 40,000 people just broke content access for millions. Over a game that had already been pulled from the platform without their intervention.

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                  They are cumming for all of us!

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                    Why are you assuming they are grinning about it? They were hosting this all before in a very laissez fair approach. Unbelievable. It's not "bearing" the payment processors, it's existential. Either they do as they say or they go offline, how hard is this to understand?

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                    "grin and bear it" is not literal.

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                      Showing opposition is good, if they find the community is so against this maybe they'll not grin and bear the nonsense of the payment processors. They could move to new payment processors, or use crypto to pay.

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                      They could move to new payment processors

                      This is way harder than you can imagine.. You can't just swap out a payment provider overnight, and even then moving to less popular providers on such a big website is risky.

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                        I can’t wait for every piece of entertainment to be flavorless gruel!

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                          European independent payment processor? Nooooo, US's ass is so tasty to kiss...

                          USA is a lost cause already, but EU still has a chance. Get rid of USA-related anything. Let them sit there and eat corn and watch superhero movies.

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                          Wasn't the activist group Australian?

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                            EU banks are working on it

                            https://www.ecb.europa.eu/paym/integration/retail/retail_payments_strategy/html/index.en.html

                            There's some sort of SEPA instant payments that come into effect this fall, I think, too.

                            https://www.ecb.europa.eu/paym/integration/retail/instant_payments/html/instant_payments_regulation.en.html

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                            The US has the Fair Access to Banking Act trying to do similar things, but it's been stagnant for 2 years.

                            This bill places restrictions on certain banks, credit unions, and payment card networks if they refuse to do business with a person who complies with the law. Restrictions include prohibiting the use of electronic funds transfer systems and lending programs, termination of an institution's depository insurance, and specified civil penalties.

                            Banks and other specified financial institutions are allowed to deny financial services to a person only if the denial is justified by a documented failure of that person to meet quantitative, impartial, risk-based standards established in advance by the institution. This justification may not be based upon reputational risks to the institution. Banks may also deny services to a person who engaged in rude or harassing conduct toward an employee of the bank.

                            The bill establishes the right for a person to bring a civil action for a violation of this bill.

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                              Showing opposition is good, if they find the community is so against this maybe they'll not grin and bear the nonsense of the payment processors. They could move to new payment processors, or use crypto to pay.

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                              Moving away would seriously hurt bottom line as not everyone will bother setting up accounts.
                              Moving to crypto would shut them down, the amount of people I know that pay with crypto for anything is almost zero despite having a tech-savvy friends group.

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                                Wasn't the activist group Australian?

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                                Sorry about them!

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                                  Can we not overlook that this was activist driven. Looks like this Collective Shout is only a 40,000 person organization. 40,000 people just broke content access for millions. Over a game that had already been pulled from the platform without their intervention.

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                                  Looks like this Collective Shout is only a 40,000 person organization. 40,000 people just broke content access for millions.

                                  Not even that.

                                  https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/australian-anti-porn-group-claims-responsibility-for-steams-new-censorship-rules-in-victory-against-porn-sick-brain-rotted-pedo-gamer-fetishists-and-things-only-get-weirder-from-there/

                                  Collective Shout later wrote that 1,067 individuals called and emailed payment processors as part of this campaign.

                                  It's absurd. I'm just going to link to the last thread from when this was on steam , and repost my comment.

                                  https://lemmy.world/post/33277694

                                  Collective Shout later wrote that 1,067 individuals called and emailed payment processors as part of this campaign.

                                  How the fuck can these goddamn censors achieve so much with just this much, while stop killing games has hundreds of thousands, if not millions of supporters and can barely get companies to do the minimum?

                                  Just fucking anything worth doing needs overwhelming support, these dickheads can get it done with just over one thousand people. It's a fucking joke.

                                  Yeah, this is incest and rape, incest and rape bad. wow, hot take. It's not about that, how fucking little effort do these dickheads need compared to how much fucking effort is needed to actually achieve something meaningful in this life.

                                  These pricks are only doing it to try to limit speech instead of doing something to "protect the vulnerable".

                                  porn sick brain rotted pedo gamer fetishists

                                  I'm sure they won't finish there, and won't rest until porn in general is outlawed.

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                                  • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                    "grin and bear it" is not literal.

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                                    My bad, thanks for the headsup. Missed that because of the negation. So yeah my original reply is a mess but that doesn't change that this is existential and the community opposing itch doesn't make any sense.

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                                      Read: bigoted crybullies got the credit card duopoly to fuck us, and nothing on the internet is safe until they're stopped.

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                                      • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                        Looks like this Collective Shout is only a 40,000 person organization. 40,000 people just broke content access for millions.

                                        Not even that.

                                        https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/australian-anti-porn-group-claims-responsibility-for-steams-new-censorship-rules-in-victory-against-porn-sick-brain-rotted-pedo-gamer-fetishists-and-things-only-get-weirder-from-there/

                                        Collective Shout later wrote that 1,067 individuals called and emailed payment processors as part of this campaign.

                                        It's absurd. I'm just going to link to the last thread from when this was on steam , and repost my comment.

                                        https://lemmy.world/post/33277694

                                        Collective Shout later wrote that 1,067 individuals called and emailed payment processors as part of this campaign.

                                        How the fuck can these goddamn censors achieve so much with just this much, while stop killing games has hundreds of thousands, if not millions of supporters and can barely get companies to do the minimum?

                                        Just fucking anything worth doing needs overwhelming support, these dickheads can get it done with just over one thousand people. It's a fucking joke.

                                        Yeah, this is incest and rape, incest and rape bad. wow, hot take. It's not about that, how fucking little effort do these dickheads need compared to how much fucking effort is needed to actually achieve something meaningful in this life.

                                        These pricks are only doing it to try to limit speech instead of doing something to "protect the vulnerable".

                                        porn sick brain rotted pedo gamer fetishists

                                        I'm sure they won't finish there, and won't rest until porn in general is outlawed.

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                                        I appreciate it. Not anything I can do about it. But it's good to know who to be possed at

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                                          Read: bigoted crybullies got the credit card duopoly to fuck us, and nothing on the internet is safe until they're stopped.

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                                          bigoted crybabies

                                          Actually highly organized American religious organizations doing this shit. They've been organizing for a long time and with trump now have a clear path to try and make the entire world suffer under their needs

                                          Fuck the American Taliban

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