DeepSeek collects keystroke data and more, storing it in Chinese servers

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I trust China more

I get not bootlicking American daddies but why would you bootlick a hostile foreign actor?!

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Fair enough, sorry to be confusing to you.

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Realistically what is the worst thing China is doing with your private data? Selling it? If you’re not a Chinese National, at least you don’t fall under their jurisdiction.

If you’re a U.S. citizen, with all the tech oligarchs cozying up to the current administration, I’d be a lot more concerned with Facebook/Twitter/Etc collecting your data.

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It's not really trust. It's more like hate. I hate this country. I hate what it's turned into. I hate the oligarchy. I hate the captured politicians. I hate that the supposed opposition to actual fascists is a bunch of whinging cunts who's primary concerns are about rules and norms. I hate that we are everything our propaganda told us about the rest of the world. I hate that our entire economic system is just a jenga stack of pyramid schemes.

We are a failed state. And if what I type on my phone helps our geopolitical "adversaries" get even 1 human hairs worth of advantage on this shithole then I'll give it gladly.

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That sinophobia isn't going to stoke itself!

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I want them to win. And they will. Short of global nuclear war they can't lose. Venture capital can't even dream of competing with central planning. Not even a question.

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No, but they can manipulate the public's perception of political reality to the point that someone gets elected who will bust your door down and kill you, because a bunch of people who don't have time to make figuring out the news into a part-time job decided that that person would be able to make eggs cheaper and the other guy's son was really into hookers or something, and also he was old and wasn't "fixing the border."

Just as a random example.

(To be clear, I don't have any reason to think specifically that TikTok or China was involved in getting Trump elected. I'm just saying that allowing any adversary, whether that's China or that's the GOP's social media psyop department, to have control over American's social media landscape, will absolutely have an impact on you personally, and already has.)

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Okay but now we aren't really talking about privacy anymore, are we? We're talking about the monopolization of social media by a few corporations as we're siloed into platforms. Bad, for sure, but a different problem.

The election interference is coming from inside the house and privacy is only tangentially related to a larger problem.

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I wouldn't be so sure. China is at the world's forefront of automated techniques to be able to spy on and manipulate people through their own devices at massive scale. If they had some semi-workable technology to fingerprint individuals through their typing patterns, in conjunction with fingerprinting the devices they were using through other means, that would make perfect sense to me.

I don't think it is especially a concern for Deepseek specifically, for reasons discussed elsewhere in the comments. That one particular aspect of the privacy issue is probably being overblown, when there are other adjacent privacy and security concerns that are a lot more pressing. Honestly, that one particular detail isn't really proven simply because it's in the privacy policy, and even if they are doing something like that, its inclusion or not in this particular privacy policy or this app isn't the particularly notable part about it.

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They all store data on Chinese servers?

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but it’s a foreign actor so OOooooOOWwwwooOOOO sCaRrRey!

I love that people think this is a solid own. Lest we forget Hong Kong, or an impending hot war in Taiwan or building out extradition systems with an expanding network of countries to forcibly repatriate and torture dissidents and human rights lawyers.

You used to not have to explain why authoritarianism was bad. But now it's extremely low effort whataboutisms or (sets my watch) dogpiles of downvotes detached from arguments or explanations.

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Realistically what is the worst thing China is doing with your private data?

Probably mapping out the extended support networks of people in Taiwan to prepare to throw them in jail after a forcible military takeover of the island.

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Nothing alleged about it. The main app wraps your prompt in a China-friendly one

I asked it about whether the takeover of Hong Kong was met with international criticism. First I saw a answer saying yes, and affirming the nature of those criticisms.

A few minutes later the answer I already saw was replaced with "sorry, that's outside of my scope." I think with the flood of new traffic to Deepseek, they are scaling up reviews of chat content.

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at this point, I think people have mined the prompt itself?

Would be interested in any additional info on this. Curious what the prompt was.

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This is interesting. It looks like the USA is turning into China, but the hate of that there's a turning makes China look more appealing?

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Pathetic

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Yeah I scan logs and so far nothing... I still don't trust them but I can't tell shit either

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I'm not American so they are indeed a foreign actor.

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It used to not be necessary because democracies used to have moral authority but since the revelations of Manning and Snowden non-Americans see no difference between giving our data to the USA or to China or any other. We also know from the reaction to the war in Ukraine and Gaza that human rights claims are only sometimes used.

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DeepSeek collects keystroke data and more, storing it in Chinese servers