Donald Trump Pulling US Troops From Europe in Blow to NATO Allies: Report

[idiomaddict@lemmy.world]

The US didn’t start the Vietnam War, maybe that’s why. They certainly exacerbated it and prevented it from being resolved, but it was just a civil war (kind of, Vietnam had just been divided into two countries, so I don’t know if it technically counts as a civil war still) at the beginning.

[valeria@feddit.kyiv.ua]

It’s time for Europe to defend itself.

[melchior@feddit.org]

There is a reason Russia does not want Ukraine to join the EU. Even the pretty bad state of the EU militaries ends up with a fighting force which is larger then Russias and has some pretty good tech. The issue is mostly organizing it all.

[etterra@discuss.online]

They're planning on adding a paywall to their startup.

[etterra@discuss.online]

He'd cut off his own hand if you could convince him that it voted for Biden.

[jumi@lemmy.world]

Don't threaten us with a good time

[trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works]

It has been high time to get rid of all and any US reliance when that orange fascist Muppet got elected the the first time.

[federalreverse@feddit.org]

Adding /s might have saved your comment from the downvotes.

[prandom_returns@lemm.ee]

Nice suggestion. Let's abandon our strongest ally who are in an identity chrisis for literal terrorists. Thanks, Lemmy.

[meowgenau@programming.dev]

Haha yeah I realized it.

[gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org]

Well i argue that it's more complicated than that ... Europe really did profit tremendously from the relationship after WW2, but now ... not so much anymore, i guess. If one looks at recent developments.

[jagged_circle@feddit.nl]

There's a lot od countries in Europe. Also unclear if you mean Australia

[nocturnalmorning@lemmy.world]

Well, it's an article about trump pulling troops out of Europe, so pretty safe to conclude im from the U.S.

[melchior@feddit.org]

Germany is buying Arrow3, which is anti ICBM.

[jagged_circle@feddit.nl]

Well, Its an article about trump pulling troops out of Europe, so pretty safe to assume by "our country" you mean some country in Europe.

[herrvogel@lemmy.world]

The pilot has to yell "I'M LOVIN' IT" into the radio with sufficient enthusiasm otherwise the landing gear won't come down.

[naiboftabr@infosec.pub]

So having an interceptor is good, definitely the sites in Poland and Romania don't really provide enough coverage. But, the interceptor is only one part of the defense. Before you can use it, you need an early-warning sensor which can spot the flare of a missile launch on the ground (or at sea) - most effectively done with a network of observation satellites. Then that sensor needs to hand off its data to a tracking radar system - preferably one that can track the missile from its boost phase through the atmosphere all the way up into its sub-orbital path. You will probably need several different radar systems at different locations with different angles and ranges to do this effectively (all actively sharing data with each other).

Modern ICBMs are nasty things with multiple warheads and also multiple decoy warheads, and they're constantly dropping off empty fuel tanks and cowlings and other bits of hardware to shed weight during flight, so you need a highly sensitive radar to discriminate among the various debris and identify the real warhead(s). Once you've got that, you can track it for a bit to determine its trajectory and then you can feed that data to an interceptor system to hit it.

Also, explosions aren't worth much in space so your typical interceptor uses a "kinetic warhead" which is basically just a solid chunk of metal (it's a guided, rocket-powered bullet). You have to hit the target directly. If you miss by half a meter, you missed.

All of this identification, tracking, discrimination, targetting and intercepting needs to happen within the very few minutes of the ICBM's flight path, preferably before the warheads separate and spread out. The point being, it's a very difficult thing to actually accomplish and requires a lot of precision, and many different technologies working together in real-time, which is why I say that the MDA's current system couldn't be replaced in less than 20 years.

[maggoty@lemmy.world]

Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Anyone who says that is trying to revise history. Bush lied about Saddam having a WMD program to send us to Iraq. It's the perfect example.

[mothmandelorian@lemmy.world]

That will depend on whether Trump knows Putin has something planned for Europe now that his lapdog is in the White House

[redex68@lemmy.world]

Honestly? Sure. The NATO shield will still exist so it doesn't affect the security of European countries much, and it only reduces American military influence abroad by reducing their capabilities to respond to events in the region, so what do we care? We should be investing more in defense regardles of whether the Americans pull out or not.