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How much data do you require before you accept something as "fact"?

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    When a lot of people who have nothing to do with each other say the same thing.

    When people who dedicate their life to this one thing say the same.

    When I can come to the same conclusion based on the reasoning behind it

    When it is repeatable.

    Then I going to accept it as a fact otherwise it is just something someone has said.

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      I'm like 90% sure this is sarcastic, but you never know.

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      It's sarcasm

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        I'll colloquially use the word "fact" for extremely well supported claims, but in my head the only actual "facts" are mathematical derivations. Evidence supports the veracity of a claim, and a claim with a lot of evidence gets a tentative place in my world model, but any of those claims can be refuted by sufficient counter-evidence

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          when science backs it up.

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            Reading it once on social media

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            Yes, but only if it matches my current beliefs.

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              If your hypothesis is "all swans are white", and I show you a black swan, do you reject your hypothesis?

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              Tell you what, you define right and left, I will define the center of it if that will help you wrap your brain around it. Otherwise I have no idea what it is you are trying to accomplish other than starting a zero sum fight so unless you get it together I'm out.

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                Even if it is an illusion created by the brain, does that make it any less existent?

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                If you see a mirage of a spring in the desert can you quench your thirst?

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                  when science backs it up.

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                  What happens when "science" backs up two opposing ideas with sufficient evidence and logic to make either seem plausible?

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                    when science backs it up.

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                    Science rules!

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                      If you see a mirage of a spring in the desert can you quench your thirst?

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                      The fact that there is word for this experience demonstrates that the experience itself objectively exists, which only serves to prove my point.

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                        At least 4.

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                          What happens when "science" backs up two opposing ideas with sufficient evidence and logic to make either seem plausible?

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                          Have you got an example?

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                            What happens when "science" backs up two opposing ideas with sufficient evidence and logic to make either seem plausible?

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                            Then the science isn't done evaluating the opposing ideas. That's the beauty of science, it can be proven wrong and still work.

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                              Like, i found this youtube channel from the video "mom founf the yaoi". And now its latest video is about the rapture? Its just morse code, this description, and 2 links in the comments.

                              As soon as i get home, im yt-dlp this channel to preserve this.

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                              I have no earthly idea what you're talking about (replied in the wrong place, maybe?), but that is some prime internet weirdness.

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                                I have no earthly idea what you're talking about (replied in the wrong place, maybe?), but that is some prime internet weirdness.

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                                Not sure if people on the internet are doing a bit for the funnies, or actually serious with what the believe.

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                                  Have you got an example?

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                                  Off the top of my head string theory is a good example of numerous competing hypothesis that seem plausible given the data.

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                                    Then the science isn't done evaluating the opposing ideas. That's the beauty of science, it can be proven wrong and still work.

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                                    How can Science be proven wrong and still work? That is not at all how Science works.

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                                      The fact that there is word for this experience demonstrates that the experience itself objectively exists, which only serves to prove my point.

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                                      Answer the question.

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                                        This is exactly how science works. It self corrects as new information becomes available.

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                                          Not sure if people on the internet are doing a bit for the funnies, or actually serious with what the believe.

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                                          The bit where she's distracted by her skinny arm right after saying she can't distract herself makes me pretty sure it's parody. It's very well done, though.

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