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    I could really see companies just fork open source and give it a tweak like UI or new switches...

    Terrible.

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    New wealth redistribution method?

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      At one point my company made us buy Eclipse from a vendor because free software was not allowed. It had no tweaks or support, just out of date Eclipse that I had to wait for purchasing to get

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      Whenever I hear about shit like this I wonder if I should just start a company and package free software lol. Could like donate a bunch of the profit to the actual projects.

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        Tried that for awhile at home, just didn't seem as robust. Also, you can get Netgate hardware if the company doesn't want a 10-yo Dell running the edge.

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        Bought some of the higher end negate routers for work. 1u rack mount. Five locations all linked with fail over tunnels. I run our filter and monitoring on them as well . Pfblockng works great for general purpose filtering. When you filter porn you really need a lot of ram. The intel boards they have are a little finicky on the type of SFP you can install but other than that they work great.

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          Fork vim, rename it, sell it back to your company

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          Donate cost back to vim

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          • W [email protected]

            OPNsense is also a viable alternative.

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            Sure, I've tried it but honestly there wasn't much difference. I use pfsense because its what I started with. I imagine if you started with opnsense it would be the same thing. I use pfsense+ licensing for all the routers at work and that makes the higher ups happy that its has commercial support if needed.

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              As if the Eulas don’t make it all arbitration?

              What software company allows liability for mistakes in a EULA?

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              Companies and individuals play by different rules.

              When a big company purchases software a team of people from both parties (whose entire job and career are based on doing this) negotiate with each other to decide exactly who is liable for what and to what degree.

              When you purchase software you agree to let the company fuck you over at their leisure because you literally do not have enough hours in the day to even read everything you agree to, let alone understand it, let alone argue with it. And even if you did you don't have enough bargaining power to make a large company care.

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                insert thats the neat part meme

                Eventually it was decided I would write Javascript on a web page I made. Skills I never declaired having I told them I was a java dev.

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                So they essentially hired you for no reason and then had to come up with something for you to do?

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                  Honestly, a policy of "no free-of-charge software installed on workstations except FOSS" might improve security a bit and probably without doing all that much damage to the day-to-day workings of the company.

                  For that matter, if my employer instituted a policy of "no software except FOSS", my own particular job probably would be a surprisingly small adjustment. As long as they were willing to do the work to set up infrastructure and/or let us switch to FOSS alternatives that require third-party server providers as necessary. About all I can think of that's installed on my work machine that's proprietary is:

                  • Zoom
                  • A paid corporate VPN client
                  • A random program that I use to authenticate to Kubernetes clusters in use where I work (so I can use Kubectl)
                  • Chrome
                  • The Client Management software my company uses (the software they use to remotely administrate the company-provided machines -- force install shit without telling you, spy on you, nag people who have computers that aren't actually used to return them, wipe your computer if you report it stolen, etc)
                  • And, of course, bios, proprietary firmware blobs, etc

                  Beyond that, I honestly can't think specifically of anything else proprietary installed on my work machine. My personal computers have far less proprietary software installed than the above list.

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                    Not just pick up the phone and harass someone but to also have someone to press a lawsuit against if things go really wrong. With free software the liability typically ends at the user which means all they can do is fire the employee and eat the loss. Suppose now corporate paid for it, well now there is a contract and a party that can be sued.

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                    I hear that a lot but would that actually work? Sure, you will get a redhat level 1 support employee within the hour for a severity 1 ticket. But does the actual contract (which I don't have access to) make any legally binding guarantees regarding the time-to-resolution? I seriously doubt it. Which is to say -- your legal team will be SOL.

                    They also won't take responsibility for any fuckup on your part if you install a bad driver or deviate from the admin guides in anyway (which is why Legal says for a minor issue you can't apply a patch from StackExchange, you must raise a ticket and wait 3 business days for RedHat to tell you to apply the patch from StackExchange).
                    Getting phished definitely falls in this category BTW. Vendors may or may not help you but they certainly won't accept any liability.

                    It's still a good enough safety net to have for corporations with no trustworthy in-house expertise as vendors do have an incentive to keep their customers happy and most will help to the best of their abilities (which often isn't as much as one might think...), but it's hardly a legal panacea. If you need guarantees against catastrophic financial losses, that is what insurance is for.

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                      Honestly, a policy of "no free-of-charge software installed on workstations except FOSS" might improve security a bit and probably without doing all that much damage to the day-to-day workings of the company.

                      For that matter, if my employer instituted a policy of "no software except FOSS", my own particular job probably would be a surprisingly small adjustment. As long as they were willing to do the work to set up infrastructure and/or let us switch to FOSS alternatives that require third-party server providers as necessary. About all I can think of that's installed on my work machine that's proprietary is:

                      • Zoom
                      • A paid corporate VPN client
                      • A random program that I use to authenticate to Kubernetes clusters in use where I work (so I can use Kubectl)
                      • Chrome
                      • The Client Management software my company uses (the software they use to remotely administrate the company-provided machines -- force install shit without telling you, spy on you, nag people who have computers that aren't actually used to return them, wipe your computer if you report it stolen, etc)
                      • And, of course, bios, proprietary firmware blobs, etc

                      Beyond that, I honestly can't think specifically of anything else proprietary installed on my work machine. My personal computers have far less proprietary software installed than the above list.

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                      Not related, but did you ever use k9s? Quite nifty CLI tool to control Kube, albeit not on a very advanced level, it helped me a lot to not get drowned in Kube commands.

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                        My org told me “you can’t install open source software”

                        Everyone uses Firefox

                        I just want OpenShell

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                        • C [email protected]

                          I majored in Anthropology in college. I should have done Misanthropology.

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                          You did; just need to apply it.

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                            You did; just need to apply it.

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                            I'll try that. Fuck you.

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                              I'll try that. Fuck you.

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                              They grow up so fast sheds tear

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                                Bought some of the higher end negate routers for work. 1u rack mount. Five locations all linked with fail over tunnels. I run our filter and monitoring on them as well . Pfblockng works great for general purpose filtering. When you filter porn you really need a lot of ram. The intel boards they have are a little finicky on the type of SFP you can install but other than that they work great.

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                                Running a 1U work gave me! Haven't messed with it much, just works.

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                                  So they essentially hired you for no reason and then had to come up with something for you to do?

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                                  Yeah, I really don't understand why they hired me. It was a contract role and they ended it early once they ran out of things for me to do. Last day I drove home laughing the way home I was so fucking happy to leave that place.

                                  They really sucked afterwards though since they wouldn't even say if I worked there or not while I was job hunting, so I spent the next few months unemployeed.

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                                  • T [email protected]

                                    Javascript is a part of Java, duh!

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                                    I literally had the "Java is to javascript as car is to carpet" conversation with my dickhead boss. He didn't get it and I had to explain to him that you don't drive a carpet to work.

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                                      Every day I wake up I thank God I'm not an MBA 🙏

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                                      Sometimes I wish I was a piece of shit so I didn't need to worry about money.

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                                        It's not more secure, it's so they can offload blame and have people to sue if/when something ugly happens. Liability control, essentially.

                                        We had to pay for fucking Docker container licenses at my last job because we needed an escalation to the vendor in case our SMEs couldnt handle things (they could), and so we had a vendor to blame if something out of our control happened. And that happened: we sued Mirantis when shit broke.

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                                        Hey PS: search engines do return a result for a suit against that company so potential self-doxxing territory (but maybe you’re open in your comment history IDK)

                                        (Don’t have a PACER login so couldn’t tell what was up with the suit that came back when I checked this morn, also could’ve been an unrelated suit)

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                                          Won't stop some people.

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                                          There is famously little money in open source those projects can spend on legal battles

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