Plex is locking remote streaming behind a subscription in April
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So lazyness is the real answer.
This is fair enough, to be sure, but logically I continue to have problems with it.My wife sets nothing up, that's my area of expertise. My wife's a user. This is true for Jellyfin but also things like our home automation that she very much enjoys but has no clue to how I made it work on a technical level. She just taps things in the Home Assistant app as desired.
I would also argue setting up Jellyfin is a lot easier then setting up things like an *arr strack or ripping BR media.
Plex does very little in a vacuum so despite it being easier to set up, it would be equally unlikely she ever would.It never occurred to me that when people talk about âwife factorâ, they mean setup. I also thought they just meant use.
My wife uses Jellyfin and complains about it less than Netflix or Prime.
My wife is an iPhone and Mac user and asks me to set all her Apple stuff up. I get asked to fix things all the time.
Apparently neither Apple or Jellyfin have sufficient âwife factorâ if we include setup.
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That's how I'm feeling about all these "TImE FoR evErYoNE tO swITCh To JElLyfiN" comments. You mean the program that also doesn't support this functionality out of the box?
Exactly. I'd love to use jellyfin, but it's just not feasible
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Because heâs right. You canât access your own server remotely without plexâs infrastructure (provided you donât just set up that infrastructure yourself). You donât need to open ports or anything. Your server reaches out to plex server, which creates an entry point to your network. Your stream is then either routed through their servers or possibly setup as P2P stream.
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Dammit, my friend just said he would give me access to his file server, all I have to do is install Plex. Presumably this announcement means that will become impossible without a subscription.
I think most people probably have a lifetime plex pass for their plex server, or they are using alternative servers.
Lifetime pass grants licenses to all clients, at least it used to unless this changes that.
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The problem is people don't put their money where their mouth is. Even less in the scale needed to produce a product of the quality te average person expects. You see this again and again. It's very nice to think it works, but it doesn't. A random guy saying "actchually I donated 1 Monero" doesn't mean a project is financially sustainable.
You're right. Unfortunately, open-source has proven time and time again to be unsustainable and burn maintainers out
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And what about just plain music? Is Jellyfin or Audiobookshelf better suited for that?
For music, I selfhost navidrome. Works nicely with the Tempo app on android, or Feishin on desktop.
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Canât say I have a huge issue with this - Plex isnât FOSS and the infrastructure to make this happen isnât free. Other options are available if you donât want to pay the fee.
But what infrastructure does this feature require? I'm direct connecting to my own personal server with perhaps credential handling and a handshake handled by Plex servers to connect. None of the media is passing through their servers - or it shouldn't be if it is.
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Its not. It is setting up a secure route from the client to the server. That is quite literally not a server. No one thinks Tailscale is a Server. That's essentially all they are doing but just handling adding the clients automatically when they authenticate.
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Because heâs right. You canât access your own server remotely without plexâs infrastructure (provided you donât just set up that infrastructure yourself). You donât need to open ports or anything. Your server reaches out to plex server, which creates an entry point to your network. Your stream is then either routed through their servers or possibly setup as P2P stream.
That's just not correct. Mate. It's setting up a secure route from the client to your Plex server. It's essentially doing what Tailscale does but just handling the client setup automatically via their Plex authentication. They are authenticating the connection and setting up the route from the client to the server. They are not handling petabytes of data people are streaming.
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It's not super easy, but you can install it on tizen tvs by enabling developer mode. I was able to follow this walk-through to get it on a new TV for my relatives.
https://github.com/Georift/install-jellyfin-tizen
Since their TV was newer, I had to do extra steps to create a custom certificate.
The whole process took a while, but it's doable.
Thanks for the info! How is your experience with using the app? Is it buggy? Does it need frequent updates?
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We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. Thisâalongside the new Plex Pass pricingâwill help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.
jellyfin + tailscale is all you need. It's so damn good and easy
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Dammit, my friend just said he would give me access to his file server, all I have to do is install Plex. Presumably this announcement means that will become impossible without a subscription.
Tell him to switch to jellyfin and that he should give you tailscale access
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We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. Thisâalongside the new Plex Pass pricingâwill help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.
Seems reasonable. I'm a lifetime Plex pass holder, so it won't affect me or the one person I let access my server lol
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The media segments feature has been released as of 10.10.0 and it still needs a plugin. Feels a bit clunky but works already on my Android TV box.
Do you know how to get intro skipping to work? Iâve reinstalled the latest version of Jellyfin for testing and have the Media Segments Provider plugin installed, but there still seems to be no intro skipping button on any clients. People in this thread keep telling me it exists but outside of this thread there appears to be no evidence it exists.
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With version 10.10 they integrated chapter markers into Jellyfin. You still need a plugin to generate the intro timings, but any client I tried has support for skipping with a button.
Iâve just reinstalled the latest version of Jellyfin and installed the Media Segments Provider, and tested every client available for it and none of them appear to have a skip intro button implemented.
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Dammit, my friend just said he would give me access to his file server, all I have to do is install Plex. Presumably this announcement means that will become impossible without a subscription.
Mmmmmaybe.
A lot of what they paywall depends on if the server runner's account is a Plexpass holder. You might have to pay a one time fee for the app depending on what platform you choose.
Then again, there's different ways of sharing your server, they might be keen on only including Plexpass for the Plex Home users and then paywall the E-mail shared users.
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I just want to make sure I read this correctly. It says that if your a Plex plass holder already that remote streaming changes won't affect your service. This means that if I have the lifetime subscription and host my own server than users whom have not payed for Plex pass can continue to access this server without issue correct?
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jellyfin + tailscale is all you need. It's so damn good and easy
This might be a dumb question, but could I access my Jellyfin through an external VPN like Proton?
I have it set up in my raspberry to download Linux ISOs and run Jellyfin
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This might be a dumb question, but could I access my Jellyfin through an external VPN like Proton?
I have it set up in my raspberry to download Linux ISOs and run Jellyfin
If you mean that you are using Proton VPN on your Raspberry Pi to mask your downloading traffic, then no that same VPN will not help you access services like Jellyfin on your home network while you are remote.
Instead you'll want to use something like Tailscale (or Wireguard). You run it as a service on your home network and it then becomes your own VPN that you (or others) can use to connect to your home network when you are remote.
You could run Wireguard on the same RaspberryPi that you use for downloading but I would recommend against it assuming that you're running Proton VPN right on the host itself (and not inside a container).
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We are also changing how remote playback works for streaming personal media (that is, playback when not on the same local network as the server). The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature. Thisâalongside the new Plex Pass pricingâwill help provide those resources. This change will apply to the future release of our new Plex experience for mobile and other platforms.
