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Microsoft tells Windows 10 users to just trade in their PC for a newer one, because how hard can it be?

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  • D [email protected]

    Hardware MIGHT be controlled by signal RGB

    OpenRGB to the rescue: https://flathub.org/apps/org.openrgb.OpenRGB

    controlling the pump in my AIO?

    What do you need to control about your pump? I sure hope it works without OS support.

    Or the sound levels on ny headset?

    Move the volume slider up or down?

    Or the DPI in my mouse?

    Save them to the mouse as profile if it can or use Piper: https://flathub.org/apps/org.freedesktop.Piper

    in AMD you lose access to certain features like AMFM2

    FSR Frame Gen works just fine, not sure why you need fake frames in more games.

    the FOSS solutions are not industry standard, so sure, I can learn to use LibreOffice, but that's worth absolutely nothing when you apply for a corporate job and they expect you to know how to use outlook as a bare minimum

    There is also OnlyOffice and online MS Office. Not sure what you need to know about Outlook to open it and use your eyes to read the mails.

    even the Google office suite is being adopted faster

    Good news, it runs in a browser and works on every OS!

    Ah, but if the software is available there's still a chance it doesn't work because it's missing a dependency or something and you have to ask people to use the terminal and... Sigh

    I have not fixed dependencies issue on Linux since the early 2000s. Flatpaks are your friend https://flathub.org/ .

    All in all, it's just behind in many ways, sure, for some people it's ok, and for laptops I'd think is mostly ok, great even.

    I run it on my high end PC and I disagree. It's ahead in many ways.

    • The graphics drivers are included and don't need any bloated software to work
    • It has a banger OpenGL driver, which makes games like Minecraft run significantly faster.
    • It has a very active community for game support for games where the developer does not care
    • It translates older DirectX versions to Vulkan automatically, resulting in a performance uplift and more stability. People on Windows are installing DXVK just so older games work. Look up DXVK in the Steam forums.
    • It downloads shader caches from Valve, preventing shader stutter in games that don't do it on their own

    That list could go on for a while and it's only for gaming.

    I haven't even gone into installation and not having to run ShutUp10 every time just to make the OS usable. Or how KDE is so much cleaner than Windows. Or how I don't have any ads in my start menu, don't have to force download Candy Crush on first boot, don't have pre-installed apps I can't remove, don't have to block my own OS in its firewall to get rid of telemetry, don't have to be told that I need to upgrade to Windows 11 constantly.

    For work: Docker just works, complex networking setups are not a pain to setup, creating VMs is so much easier and has so many more features. VPN is so seamlessly setup. I can read almost every file system on the planet and use ROCm without jumping through hoops. Not to mention I don't get Copilot and Recall shoved down my throat.

    Are there issues on Linux? Sure, lots of them. But if I find them I can tell somebody about it and don't have to deal with them for centuries.

    I'm rooting for Steam OS to release to desktops because my living room PC is LITERALLY just for gaming, so that "could" work nicely.

    SteamOS is just a modern Linux distro with Steam pre-installed and in autostart. If stuff works there, it works on regular Linux just as well.

    Bazzite achieves the same thing right now: https://bazzite.gg/

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    The pump works without software obviously, but iCue let's you change the speed of the pump.

    Sound levels of the headset refers to the equalizer profiles.

    FSR Frame gen ISN'T AFMF, which is great on older games capped at 60fps where you can easily get 120fps and it honestly feels fine.

    and of course I know steamOS is just a distro, but they actually fine tuned stuff for gaming, and like I said, if you're only gaming, sure SteamOS/Bazzite or whatever might just work. But if you use your computer for basically anything else, most people will still have issues.

    All of what you described is just EXTRA work people need to know just to play games. The reality is that most "solutions" are always workarounds or alternatives. Most people prefer NATIVE first party support.

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      sigh does it at least come with ranch or peanutbutter? Celery is better with one of those.

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      No! CheezWiz with raisins or nothing! Just like my mother used to make.

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        I can't recall ever trying it with peanut butter, that sounds interesting

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        Celery is excellent that way. A peanut butter lover's dream

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          I can't recall ever trying it with peanut butter, that sounds interesting

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          Celery and peanut butter together are the best if you like both of those things separately

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            W10 wouldn't get past the pin screen (type pin, then black screen forever, nothing else), so I used a live boot disk of fedora to rescue my files (turns out you can just bypass windows pins and mount the drive), then installed fedora on my old toshiba satellite and never looked back. Few years in I upgraded with linux in mind and now am cruising with a Framework 16. No regrets.

            Join us! Cast off your shackles! Microsoft has no power over you beyond what you willingly give them!

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            • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

              So you went from a 10 year upgrade cycle to a 7 year upgrade cycle?

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              I may not have 10 years left in my life cycle!

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                A MacBook is on the upgrade treadmill even faster than windows lol

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                I've never had a pc get to 10 years old before upgrading. I fully expect my MacBook to meet my needs (which don't include rending animations or editing video) for the rest of my life (I’m 65) OR at least 10 years.

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                  Users to microsoft: "You're creating a huge pile of garbage out of perfectly fine devices because of unneeded hardware requirement"

                  microsoft: "It's ok, just buy a new one"

                  Rarely have a message gone through so bad.

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                  Funny because people still use Windows 7 in large quantities across the world.

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                    Yes, I hate it.

                    Use Mint - it works better than Ubuntu, Canonical has made enough 'mistakes' to get on the blacklist.

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                    So basically, Ubuntu just with a different name and paint job. (I've used them both)

                    We are all at the most basic level, running pretty much the same kernel, one of the same small handful of desktop environments, and we choose from the same pool of software, (unless you need to get out into the weeds for a program on git hub). Everything else is either window dressing, (package mangers are window dressing-- they all do the same basic thing), or a choice on just how close to the bleeding edge we want to be, (rolling releases or immutable).

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                      I switched to Linux on my laptops years ago. Recently, I retired and started playing video games like Skyrim. I play on a Nintendo Switch. I considered playing Skyrim on a laptop so I could use/build mods. I bought a laptop with Windows 11 and spent forty minutes removing the bloat, ads, spyware, ai nonsense, and other dross, fixing it so it did not 'update' to restore everything I deleted, and installing my preferred alternatives (browser, search, email etc). It reminded me why I hate Windows almost as much as Mac OS (which is even more controlling). Microsoft have hundreds of engineers 'enshitifying' everything. It is more than a full-time job trying to stop them and block their 'improvements'. I am retired. I have better things to do.

                      I did not enjoy playing games with a laptop (hurts my arthritis, I prefer using a console and an easy chair) and resented having to reverse engineer everything I installed to keep it running but without sacrificing my privacy so the laptop now just sits in a drawer. It amazes me that anyone still tolerates Microsoft products, or any of the monopolists stuff. Why is anyone still using google search or chrome browser, why bing or any of it? Why is anyone still seeing adverts? Why is everyone still being fed by algorithms? You must chose this - but why? I always sought out better and if it did not exist, I built it, and if I could not build it, I did without. There is a lot of dumbing-down around technology. Back in C20th, we used to build our own hardware, write our own software. We were skilled hobbyists (later I got an M.Sc. to reinforce my hobby skills with theory and even ran a business for a while as an engineer). Around 2000 +/- five years, the monopolists offered 'help' in the form of WYSIWYG editors to write code for us or 'click buttons to register your account' platforms to host content for us instead of us running our own websites (blogger, wordpress, facebook, twitter etc). They dumbed us all down, farmed us like animals for data and used clickbait to get ad revenue and undermined our politics, culture, even changed our sense of being human. Now old folk can build resources but younger people can only consume. We have to re-skill and resist the seduction of the easy and free-to-use. There's no such thing as a free lunch. Never trust a tech bro, whether USA or any nationality.

                      Personally, I want to 'jail break' my Switch and make mods for my console version of Skyrim. I can't do that now as it is illegal but when they bring out the Switch 2 and the old console is 'obsolete' and they stop trying to get money for Skyrim, I reckon we tinkerers will get a chance to re-purpose the old console to play the old games in our own way. I reckon some exciting engineering is happening amongst the recyclers and re-purposers rather than amongst the corporates. I only buy second-hand for ethical reasons and to save money. I always install my own software based on AOSP or use a more ethical distro or alternative to the commercial options. I always debloat or degoogle or remove unwanted stuff. I wish that kind of personalisation were more common. There is a zero sum relationship with tech: either the technology controls you, or you control it. I urge you to control your own tech. Don't be enslaved by it. I feel I am in a minority in wanting sovereignty over my damn phone. It makes me sad.

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                        Trading in a PC.... in 2025? To who? Where? What time period, even? They must be thinking it's still 1985, and you can trade in your IBM Compatible to your nearest IBM Distributor.

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                        Maybe to the "third world" ( i dont like this name ) countries which still use linux because of high financial costs of windows... I can't wait react os 1.0

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                          Hah. Good luck trying to make me dispose of the computer I built almost a decade ago and that I just upgraded. Not even my laptops have outlived or outperformed this baby.

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                            W10 wouldn't get past the pin screen (type pin, then black screen forever, nothing else), so I used a live boot disk of fedora to rescue my files (turns out you can just bypass windows pins and mount the drive), then installed fedora on my old toshiba satellite and never looked back. Few years in I upgraded with linux in mind and now am cruising with a Framework 16. No regrets.

                            Join us! Cast off your shackles! Microsoft has no power over you beyond what you willingly give them!

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                            Can't game 100% on Linux now all game work well enough and driver issues.

                            If not we wouldn't be on Windows.

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                              Trading in a PC.... in 2025? To who? Where? What time period, even? They must be thinking it's still 1985, and you can trade in your IBM Compatible to your nearest IBM Distributor.

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                              The addage to people who ask if I buy PCs is: You want to get rid of it. How am I going to convince someone to not only take it, but pay money for it?

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                                So basically, Ubuntu just with a different name and paint job. (I've used them both)

                                We are all at the most basic level, running pretty much the same kernel, one of the same small handful of desktop environments, and we choose from the same pool of software, (unless you need to get out into the weeds for a program on git hub). Everything else is either window dressing, (package mangers are window dressing-- they all do the same basic thing), or a choice on just how close to the bleeding edge we want to be, (rolling releases or immutable).

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                                No snap by default is on its own a huge difference. Far from window dressing.

                                If you give a new user snaps, many things will not work as they expect, and that is not a hurdle beginners should have to pass.

                                Nobody cares about kernel, I don't even know anyone who builds their own (I use Gentoo btw), they either go bleed, or stable, nothing in between.

                                But package delivery matters a lot.

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                                  The fact that people HAD to learn to use Windows, too. It's just in the past and appears easy because they already can. If a person used computers with Linux from the start, it would be as easy for them as for Windows users.

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                                  That, and that practically all courses that taught (teach?) how to use a computer, use Windows, MS Office, and other Windows-based software.

                                  There was some nonprofit (I think it was One Laptop Per Child) that gave laptops with Linux preinstalled, Sugar for elementary school students and I think Ubuntu for highschool students.

                                  My youngest niece at least knows her way around Ubuntu.

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                                    How much could a new PC be Michael, $10?

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                                      Bring on the cheap non windows 11 computers. I've already told everyone i know if they didn't want to have to buy another computer for years they just had to start using linux. Then I show them what that looks like if they are interested. I show them that they can put menu/start button at the bottom left if thats what they want. That they can have a the same browser they use and many of the same applications. I've had two people willing to try. Most insist that they don't want to learn anything new. Its depressing but its a boon for me when people start getting rid of their perfectly usable gear.

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                                        I switched to Linux on my laptops years ago. Recently, I retired and started playing video games like Skyrim. I play on a Nintendo Switch. I considered playing Skyrim on a laptop so I could use/build mods. I bought a laptop with Windows 11 and spent forty minutes removing the bloat, ads, spyware, ai nonsense, and other dross, fixing it so it did not 'update' to restore everything I deleted, and installing my preferred alternatives (browser, search, email etc). It reminded me why I hate Windows almost as much as Mac OS (which is even more controlling). Microsoft have hundreds of engineers 'enshitifying' everything. It is more than a full-time job trying to stop them and block their 'improvements'. I am retired. I have better things to do.

                                        I did not enjoy playing games with a laptop (hurts my arthritis, I prefer using a console and an easy chair) and resented having to reverse engineer everything I installed to keep it running but without sacrificing my privacy so the laptop now just sits in a drawer. It amazes me that anyone still tolerates Microsoft products, or any of the monopolists stuff. Why is anyone still using google search or chrome browser, why bing or any of it? Why is anyone still seeing adverts? Why is everyone still being fed by algorithms? You must chose this - but why? I always sought out better and if it did not exist, I built it, and if I could not build it, I did without. There is a lot of dumbing-down around technology. Back in C20th, we used to build our own hardware, write our own software. We were skilled hobbyists (later I got an M.Sc. to reinforce my hobby skills with theory and even ran a business for a while as an engineer). Around 2000 +/- five years, the monopolists offered 'help' in the form of WYSIWYG editors to write code for us or 'click buttons to register your account' platforms to host content for us instead of us running our own websites (blogger, wordpress, facebook, twitter etc). They dumbed us all down, farmed us like animals for data and used clickbait to get ad revenue and undermined our politics, culture, even changed our sense of being human. Now old folk can build resources but younger people can only consume. We have to re-skill and resist the seduction of the easy and free-to-use. There's no such thing as a free lunch. Never trust a tech bro, whether USA or any nationality.

                                        Personally, I want to 'jail break' my Switch and make mods for my console version of Skyrim. I can't do that now as it is illegal but when they bring out the Switch 2 and the old console is 'obsolete' and they stop trying to get money for Skyrim, I reckon we tinkerers will get a chance to re-purpose the old console to play the old games in our own way. I reckon some exciting engineering is happening amongst the recyclers and re-purposers rather than amongst the corporates. I only buy second-hand for ethical reasons and to save money. I always install my own software based on AOSP or use a more ethical distro or alternative to the commercial options. I always debloat or degoogle or remove unwanted stuff. I wish that kind of personalisation were more common. There is a zero sum relationship with tech: either the technology controls you, or you control it. I urge you to control your own tech. Don't be enslaved by it. I feel I am in a minority in wanting sovereignty over my damn phone. It makes me sad.

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                                        Personally, I want to 'jail break' my Switch and make mods for my console version of Skyrim.

                                        Why not just get a steam deck?

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                                          Go google it.

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                                          good simple advice, I like it

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