AfD is the most popular party in Germany for the first time, with a record 26%
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So in your stupid brain "Not A" is automatically and without any alternatives to equivocate with "the utterly illogical opposite to A"?
Bitte achte auf deine Ausdrucksweise, solche Gossensprache wollen wir hier nicht.
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This mindset is manufactured by the Nazi scum turning a cost of living crisis into an immigration and crime crisis in order to present foreigners as an easy scapegoat. The established parties and the media jumped the bandwagon and joined in on their lies.
Then you have a party that promises to solve the problems that are actually behind why people are struggling: the rent crisis, rich people syphoning off all wealth, the cost of living, etc…
How do you solve this in a democracy?
A democracy that actually wants to solve the problem of power hungry unscrupuloaus politicians abusing the system by blatantly lying needs to punish lies, and regulate the media.
These days the media are largely only parrotting everything that is said to them rather than doing their job as journalists and exposing lies and falsehoods as what they are. Instead they are hiding behind false balance and will parrot some insane crackpot's made up lies to counter any fact they might accidentally have to report.
punish lies, and regulate the media.
So to save democracy, we need to abolish 2 of its most important characteristics - freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
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Everybody in Germany. Please talk to family members that you don't talk to about how this is dangerous to you. I know I have these in my family that I should invest in instead of always talking to the closest ones. Also make sure to beat them with genuine questions that break open their confidence in the reasoning with the socratic way (epistemology)
- What? Belief.
- Why? Reason
- How? Method for Proof
Or
- Identify Persuasion
- Question "What is it actually", definition
--In between ask for scale 1-10 how confident into the topic are you and importance queries - Why do you believe that?
- How could one determine whether this is really true?
--In between the scale and importance queries - Best argument for and strongest argument against?
- Reflect, i.e. repeat what has been said in your own words
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It's not about being well versed in the topic of conversation
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The last election was so recent, the new government hasn't even started working yet.
This poll is utterly useless, cause the next election it asks about will be in 4 years.Yea, the far right nazis have 3.7 more years to boost those numbers even more with their rethoric and propaganda. Great
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It‘s what this headline wants you to feel but it doesn‘t mean that much if you actually think about it for a moment.
I see a growth trend that if it continues will suck even more in a few years
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So what irrational fears are promoted about the AdF getting into power and achieving greater public support?
Reread the first paragraph of my initial comment.
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That entirely depends on the other parties.
As long as they have less than 50% the other parties could (in theory) band together against them and create a coalition government.
The problem arises when that coalition has to become more diverse. As you can imagine the populist right would rather work together with the far right than with the populist left, so the coalition becomes shaky, paralyzed because they cannot come to agreements. The common denominator will be so small that basically nothing gets done, and the oppositional party will profit from that.
Shaky coalition governments can lead to government breakups and snap elections which in combination with the resulting loss of trust and inability to do anything of the government will likely lead to an even stronger opposition and even more shaky governments or right out majority for the plurality party.
As you can imagine the populist right would rather work together with the far right than with the populist left
Ah fuck it let's give the Churches money to build apartments, then. They don't believe in anything anyway so let's just capture a vague sense of conservativeness.
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punish lies, and regulate the media.
So to save democracy, we need to abolish 2 of its most important characteristics - freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
No freedom is absolute. If you can keep abusing your rights with no repercussions, those rights are worthless.
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What does Bundesreg under Green and SPD mean? Or asked differently... Why doesn't FDP have that text?
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They just asked 1502 people by phone.
Yes. That's a usual number for representative polling. Sometimes, they ask 1.000, sometimes 2.000. The other German polling institutes are doing the same.
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What does Bundesreg under Green and SPD mean? Or asked differently... Why doesn't FDP have that text?
Right know Scholz is still chancellor and the old government still in office. This only changes when Merz is voted into office and the new government formed. FDP is not part of the government anymore since the old coalition failed.
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One predicates the other, though.
Clearly Germany is not doing enough to put a stop to the rising conservatism movement, and the next election might not end as favorably as a result.
Clearly Germany is not doing enough to put a stop to the rising conservatism movement
What do you mean by they are not doing enough? They are basically doing nothing else to the point of not actually doing any constructive work anymore.
Every single party is heavily competing about who can move faster to the far-right and parrot nazi narratives louder to get those voters back. And if totally it totally surprisingly doesn't work (who would have thought that alienating some voters while telling the others that nazi propaganda lies are totally okay as long as they are telling them is the perfect campaign... for the AfD) they double down again and again.
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The problem is that more simple minded people who are actually conservative, as they want to conserve society as it is, will easily fall for the propaganda and vote for a party that is out to destroy what they want to conserve.
The self proclaimed standing of a party is part of its propaganda. Unfortunately the media are complicit with the parties on perpetuating their propaganda, by calling parties by their chosen adjectives, rather than by what would be more fitting. Conservatives should rather be called "Destructives", and in many countries, "Social Democrats" are rather Neoliberals, for they have long sold out social democracy to the highest bidder and now follow an extremist free market ideology, their only remaining difference to the "Conservatives" being not wanting to return to societal norms from 60 years ago.
Populist intentionally choose words that attract potential voters, they will continue to do that. But calling them out for not being real conservatives because they act different is definitely helpful.
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Short version is they cannot govern without a coalition partner, but they gain other rights in the parliament, such as filling important positions in the administration. When they reach 1/3 of the votes, so 33% they have a Sperrminorität, which means they can't prevent changes in the constitution and also hinder new judges in the constitutional court.
Also 25% in an election would allow installing parliamentary inquiry commissions, which can be a decent way to obstruct the government by busying the bureaucracy and hogging media time.
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In phone polls, not an election...
But they already performed very well in the last election.
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Yes. That's a usual number for representative polling. Sometimes, they ask 1.000, sometimes 2.000. The other German polling institutes are doing the same.
So it is a poll of people who answer phone numbers they don’t recognize.
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So it is a poll of people who answer phone numbers they don’t recognize.
You can of course criticize that, but Forsa exists since 1984 and they are not known for publishing unrealistic polls. The polls are not the problem here. The people turning off their brains and voting for the far right are the problem.
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They just asked 1502 people by phone.
That's how statistics works. You take a sample and interpret the reality based on that sample. When you get a blood exam, you don't need to check all the blood, you take a sample and based on that get a result.
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I'm not calming down. This dumb shit happens just far too often lately. I have no idea, why people insinuate things others never said and burn that strawman down, but I'm getting too tired and more and more pissed off by it, to the point where I wonder if it's even worth it or I should rather stop discussing.
Shit's annoying AF.
You should stop discussing because what you call a straw man is a perfectly reasonable interpretation of your comment. If you don't want it to be open to interpretation, you should be more clear, rather than get mad at people taking one of the reasonable interpretations.
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Germany, you're supposed to be good guys this round.
Germany is the America of the EU, since Britain left
