Plex now want to SELL your personal data
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My friend in England uses my server all the time and neither of us have gotten that email about being charged for shared library yet lol.
Maybe im just the chosen one.
Are you using the free version of Plex or the paid for version?
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It's interesting to see the different kind of comments here and on Redshit.
Here, people are smart and they are switching to Jellyfin. On Redshit, if people mention Jellyfin in a comment they get downvoted right away.
There's a reason we all left reddit.
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They can if forced to, but they never have to do that normally. What you're telling people to do is make normal people do things they don't normally do when browsing the web and saying its as easy as making them sign up for a Plex account. Most people have done similar things as the latter, but they only have to type a full URL once or twice in their lifetime.
That is way beyond the comfort zone of most people I know. The general use case of web browser for normal people is googling the website they want and clicking the link while being blissfully unaware of what a URL is or does.
This does not mean they are mentally deficient, it just means they spend their mental processing and memory on other things they deem actually important.
they only have to type a full URL once or twice in their lifetime.
We know very different sort of people. Remember that older people wrote the full address as the default, bookmarks and especially googling everything (and "apps") only became the default later on.
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It's interesting to see the different kind of comments here and on Redshit.
Here, people are smart and they are switching to Jellyfin. On Redshit, if people mention Jellyfin in a comment they get downvoted right away.
A lot of people moved to jellyfin even on Reddit.
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Didn’t even need to dig. As soon as I opened Plex in my browser, it gave me a giant full screen “hey we want to sell your data. Do you consent” page. I disagree with data sale in general, but at least they didn’t go out of their way to bury the opt out. In fact, they actually went out of their way to present the notification in a way that was impossible to miss. If you’re capable of reading, you’ll know what the popup is for.
Agreed, but I don't always trust myself not to have clicked through something like this on autopilot and make the wrong choice.
This post had me wanting to double-check I'd opted out (I had).
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I don't know why everyone in the selfhosting community still even mentions Plex or uses it.
It's closed source, not free; Jellyfin is a no brainer yet people still go to Plex??
It might be because of security.
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Jellyfin is hardly a no-brainer. I set it up out of curiosity a few weeks ago and my first question was how do I give access to my friends and family. So I searched, and all of the results were talking about setting up a VPN or a reverse proxy or whatever. Man, I just want to tell my mom "install this app on your tv and log in", which is exactly what Plex does.
I get that Plex is enshittifying, but pretending Jellyfin is a drop-in replacement is delusional.
Since you need to self-host Jellyfin, then you are responsible for making the service public.
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I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in
Account Settings or using this page.Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/
(Might have to clear cache)Can also read about the changes here:
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/wrote last edited by [email protected]Damn it damn it damn it!! I can't use Jellyfin because...its what I watch all my porn on. Plex was used for all the family stuff. Mother fuckers! Greed is a bitch.
Edit: Wait..what if we are using a VPN...shouldnt we be good then? -
Damn it damn it damn it!! I can't use Jellyfin because...its what I watch all my porn on. Plex was used for all the family stuff. Mother fuckers! Greed is a bitch.
Edit: Wait..what if we are using a VPN...shouldnt we be good then?lmao.
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Damn it damn it damn it!! I can't use Jellyfin because...its what I watch all my porn on. Plex was used for all the family stuff. Mother fuckers! Greed is a bitch.
Edit: Wait..what if we are using a VPN...shouldnt we be good then?It specifically mentions email addresses (used for account creation I assume) and what content is being watched, which a VPN wouldn't do anything for.
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My friend in England uses my server all the time and neither of us have gotten that email about being charged for shared library yet lol.
Maybe im just the chosen one.
I've yet to see a single email about any of the shit on here about Plex. I'm not defending any of these choices, just more confused as to who this applies to, where and when.
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Haha totally, I should have said processed food, it's the most marketed.
We could also say ultra processed news now that I think about it: statistical data -> random blog article misinterprets the charts -> tweet w people not reading the sources -> screenshot goes around on facebook -> LLM regurgitates it -> TV news anchor says it with a straight face
You forgot the step of "presidential candidate quotes the Facebook post in a presidential debate"
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Damn it damn it damn it!! I can't use Jellyfin because...its what I watch all my porn on. Plex was used for all the family stuff. Mother fuckers! Greed is a bitch.
Edit: Wait..what if we are using a VPN...shouldnt we be good then?You can hide libraries on jellyfin.
Just create a family user and a porn user and login how you please.
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I dropped my library in, Jellyfin indexed it and streamed first try. What didn't work for you?
I dropped my music library into Jellyfin just as an extra. I've built up quite a collection over the years of CDs and always rip and tag them as I acquire new CDs, so while the collection is a little messy it's sizable and mostly correctly tagged
Jellyfin's music playback has been buggy but getting better with updates. At the current rate of improvement it'll probably be really good in a 2-4 years, but right now it's kinda meh. It exists but it's buggy enough that I don't use it much
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Text:
I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in
Account Settings or using this page.Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/
(Might have to clear cache)Can also read about the changes here:
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/We are altering the deal. Pray, we do not alter it further.
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For one, they moved from open source to closed source without notice.
https://web.archive.org/web/20181212104719/https://github.com/MediaBrowser/Emby/issues/3479
Seeing the person chewing out folks for calling for a fork is pretty funny in hindsight. They aren't wrong, but now they're the recorded naysayer in a pivotal moment for a major open source project. It's like anyone who said Open Office shouldn't be forked when Open Office was purchased by Oracle. Now Open Office is abandonware with only functionally useless commits and multiple unpatched security issues and Libre Office has completely replaced it
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“install this app on your tv and log in”, which is exactly what Plex does
Yes, but that person has to create an account. Everyone has to create an account. With Plex. Some people I know immediately say no, others are annoyed that plex would try and shake them down for money.
If you configure Jellyfin, all that goes away. THEN they can simply download the app and login.
I make the account for them. Then I log in as them and set it up so they only see my server. Then I send them the credentials and have them login
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I'm not even against Jellyfin or anything, but as long as I have to build elaborate VPN solutions to continue sharing my content I'll stick with Plex. Not even starting with the availability of clients on different platforms and the general lack of polish in Jellyfin first party UI (player and config).
I could live with most of that stuff if there was a way to share my library without becoming tech support for half my friends circle
Your reply just raised so many questions but most importantly why would you need a VPN with Jellyfin? I mean it's just server like any other which means install, add certificates or reverse proxy with certificates and if you're behind NAT you would need to setup port forwarding.
I mean if you're worried about server being exploited if not updated then opening it to the internet wouldn't be good but isn't that the case with Plex already?
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I bought a Plex pass for 90 or something. I officially dropped Plex about 4 months ago now. For 90 bucks I got something like 8 years out of it. I'll call that a win, I don't feel like I wasted my money, I don't feel like I overpayed. Just moving on now.
Yeah great perspective. I think we all need to have this perspective more as many tech companies will randomly change their minds on their products.
Kind of like how I got free photo backup on my first two pixels. It was a nice feature, I'm sad it's gone, but it's fine.
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Jellyfin with the same library takes mere seconds before I see the first movie/episode poster cards.
How do you explain this? Every other app is very quick to load on the TV... Plex is the only issue.
If you use a dedicated streaming device
What do you call a TV? The streaming isn't the problem, it's the loading or processing of data from the server, and/or transitions between views, that are the issues here.
Streaming is fine. Once I start a 4K HDR 5.1 movie with direct play (full quality), there is no issue, even when seeking. It's only the browsing and loading/displaying of data that is super slow. And only on Plex.
Plex is heavier, of course. They don't have the spending luxuries that Netflix or Disney has to optimize for every platform perfectly. That said, TV's notoriously use inferior hardware for the built in streaming portion so they can sell them at the prices they do and make higher profit. Sure, they can play the media they were designed to do, but that is the bare minimum requirement. They also sell your data to recoup more profit.
Unlike good dedicated streaming devices, they lack the processing power needed to make it go quickly. I have both and it is a night and day difference in responsiveness in the UI. It either lacks the memory/CPU power to work as well. Don't just take my word for it though, do your own testing or look at somebody elses. Plex definitely has improvements that can be made, but they are not at complete fault here.
If you pick a good dedicated one, it might not even sell you out to advertisers. Lol. You don't really want to connect your TV to the internet anyway. They phone home constantly.
