Argentina's president bans gender-affirming care for people under age 18

[aphelion@lemm.ee]

And no one is getting that kind of body modifications without talking to one first. Your ignorance of the medical community is on full display.

[urpartnerincrime@sh.itjust.works]

I made those edits immediately. But even so at no point in my original argument did I talk about surgeries. You immediately went into moobs and fat boys.

Also, you didn't know my sex after saying when I was younger I wanted bigger muscles, a foot of height, and a massive dick? Then you really either have read anything of just dotn care to comprehend.

[urpartnerincrime@sh.itjust.works]

Ok? And your point is?

The fact that children are getting body modigicatiks after talking is still the problem.

It sucks people are born into the wrong body. I wish it didn't happen. But it does.

And if you start letting one group of kids start making body modifications, where do you draw the line of too much? Why would it be fair for a group to completely change gender but not for another to add more modifications the help theirs.

And this whole thread started by Argentina blocking those life altering changes. They didn't stop therepy or anything, atleast not from what I've seen. The article was super short and Google results didn't lead to much.

If they did then I'm sorry for the previous ignorance. But my original argument said dress and act a certain way all you want. And I'll add we need to crack down on people bullying those that want to transition. I just don't think the answer is let the child start transitioning. And it sucks for those that truly do know early that they should be yhe other gender.

But like, what about short people that know if they were taller than would have everything. What about kids who think if just had the one part of their body diffrent everything would be better? At what point do we stop the idealization that if we were just diffrent everything would be better and start helping kids in other ways.

[trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world]

The problems that lead to similar outcomes as gender dysphoria, such as body dysmorphic disorder are different and have different treatments.

In the case of trans people with gender dysphoria, it is social and medical transition.

You need to understand that these are different situations that require different approaches, this is why they're approached differently by doctors.

Please I beg you to try to read up and understand the topics you talk about. I don't want to sound hostile, I'm just really tired.

[urpartnerincrime@sh.itjust.works]

No, I don't think that. Thank you for putting those words in my argument for me. But you're wrong.

How 'bout you don't be so condescending

[dasus@lemmy.world]

I made those edits immediately.

There was none of that in it when I replied to it, and now there are seventeen "edit edits" and the comment in itself is 600% longer.

You took something personally and revealed something about yourself while doing that. It's just a coincidence if you are one of those people suffering from gynecomastia. But if you are, wouldn't you want to not have to suffer from it? Or if you're fine and don't have it too bad, surely you can imagine people having it worse to the point they might be bullied so severely as to consider self harm? So why wouldn't we give those kids the treatment for that problem, when we have the resources and technology to do it safely?

Also, you didn’t know my sex after saying when I was younger I wanted bigger muscles, a foot of height, and a massive dick?

That was there neither. You went back to write it because you realised that you had gotten offended by me even trying to offend you, so you wrote in some bullshit after justification so it looks like it. I find that sort of behaviour pathetic.

Why haven't you replied to @[email protected] to his comment saying;

Are you actively having a stroke? You were pretty politely informed and corrected and nowhere in the above responses were you attacked in anything but the most mild and tame interpretation of the word.

I hate to toot my own horn here, but I agree with him and have not even insulted you despite this behaviour of yours.

[urpartnerincrime@sh.itjust.works]

I literally went back for Grammer cause I suck at typing.

And why am in not going aback to answer someone calling me out more, cause I'm arguing on like 4 fronts nown

[notsteve_@lemmy.ca]

is it ok to treat non trans kids for gender affirming care

Absolute yes, puberty blockers weren't even invented for trans kids. Early puberty is a thing and a problem that's treated using puberty blockers, the same that a trans person would use.

[urpartnerincrime@sh.itjust.works]

Non edit this time,

Why wouldn't I want to give other access to body modifications even if i myself had those problems. Cause what I really needed was better adults to talk to and more people to tell me everything is fine.

And I know I don't have nearly as many problems as teans kids. And it's in abd faith to compare myself. I was originally trying to point out that I don't agree with giving kids drugs to change thrier lives cause then at what point does it get out of control and it's just blown over.

[urpartnerincrime@sh.itjust.works]

Thats literally not the same thing. CPP can cause actual health problems past wanting to kill yourself.

The drugs in this case it to make suure kid, primarily girls, can grow to their full height and bot have spinal issues due to that, lower cancer rates, and significantly lower the chances of diabetes.

Not thebsame

[dasus@lemmy.world]

So just ignore the timestamps and call me a liar despite knowing you edited the comment and that I answered with a lengthy comment less than 10 minutes after yours had been written, but you still insist I intentionally tried calling you fat?

You just can't admit you were mistaken and apologise?

[urpartnerincrime@sh.itjust.works]

So just ignore that my comment was there and has stayed consistent the whole time. That i.must apologize for going back and fixing errors i made cause inhale bigger fingers. I'm not even going back andcorrextingnanthtungnthis them cause this is how it normally looks befor I gor back.

You made the mistake by changing the argument and don't want to admit yoy pivoted, not me.

[dasus@lemmy.world]

So like, dress and act how you want, but actual genderaffirming care should be left till at least on can have a drink over it first.

Your comment still stands like that.

We're not talking about "body modifications". We are talking about gender affirming care. You may pretend it's "body modification" but like most people have said, all of your rhetoric relies on an asinine view of a kid being able to just go up to their liberal parents and say "I want a complete gender reassignment" and get it, when any trans person goes through tons of psychiatrists and evaluations. They're not given anything that we haven't found to be medically safe. Which is why your "body modifications" of some absurd dick size and bone lengthening at an age where you're still growing wouldn't be accepted by any medical professionals as "gender affirming care."

It's a childish strawman which you use to justify an extremely shitty slippery slope argument. Puberty blockers are safe and effective.

Based on your answers, I assume you must be fervently against circumcision, because that is a literal permanent physical change to one's genitals, and the kid doesn't even have a say in it, much less making the choice for themselves when "they're old enough to have a drink over it." So you oppose allowing circumcision unless it's medically necessary. You also oppose teenage males who get bullied for having tits getting care for that extremely simple problem. That's the only logical conclusion from your rhetoric.

[dasus@lemmy.world]

and has stayed consistent the whole time.

It hasn't. Lie all you want but you had nothing in there about your gender, sex, wants, needs, history, nothing. You simply commented on gender affirming care, then when I pointed out the hypocrisy, you edited it to be literally four times as long.

[urpartnerincrime@sh.itjust.works]

You're absolutely lying now, I did not edit it to kake it longer.

I literally talked about having a bigger dick as one fo my first things I wrote and added on even before posting.

Pure just lying to make yourself seem better

[urpartnerincrime@sh.itjust.works]

Bro my whole arguemt. Since the fuckign beginning has been don't give kids drugs until we allow adults to have drugs. That includes puberty blockers

Which since talking to other people I leavened of CPP but that's literally health problems so it's deffrnrt.

But, your making up stuff and trying to mold the arguem t so your right.

Ans lastly cause you wanna add it in, yeah I am against circumcision. But keep changing the argument

[dasus@lemmy.world]

@[email protected]
English-3•

"I made those edits immediately after posting my argument. "

You literally just admitted to having edited the comment a few comments back. Can't even keep your lies straight.

[urpartnerincrime@sh.itjust.works]

You literally don't comprehend stuff, do you? I admitted to going back and fixing my grammar and what not.

Damn your dense.

[dasus@lemmy.world]

Bro my whole arguemt. Since the fuckign beginning has been don’t give kids drugs until we allow adults to have drugs. That includes puberty blockers

So no healthcare for children, got it. No operations for fat boys with moobs, no circumcisions and since you phrase it that way, guess no medication for any other illnesses either, huh? And the reason for this asinine take is the view that you think that children can simply go to a doctors and command them to give them full gender reassignments.

Your ignorance has been the issue the whole time. You're afraid of a problem which doesn't exist and because of that you want to make life miserable for those you pretend you're looking out for. It's horrific, tbh.

"Making up stuff." Name one.

And now you're spamming typos on purpose to even further pretend like you never edited anything to add anything to your comment, despite there being "edit" and "edit edit" and several sentences with those. Who do you think you're lying to?

[urpartnerincrime@sh.itjust.works]

Non edit again for clarity and because you can't go back and reread comments

I added the 'edits' immediately after I posted. Went back after starting to argue with you cause I realized I made some grammatical errors cause I went back to reread what I wrote.