I want more federation! Federated browsers? Federated github? Federated hosting providers? Federated internet? Where are them?

[idkwhatusernametoputherelolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

We have federated countries

(well... its more like... confederated rather than federated ¯_(ツ)_/¯)

And there's Brair there are Brair Public Forums. There is no censorship. But activity is quite dead. Expect to see a post every month, or longer.

[balsoft@lemmy.ml]

Federated browsers

That's literally just regular browsers, you can interact with any one of billions of webservers

Federated github

Git is federated by nature, you can add as many remotes as you wish and push/pull to all of them. Add in a mailing list for issue tracking and "pull requests" (patch submissions) and you're golden. You can look up sourcehut to self-host a well-integrated combination of the two.

Federated hosting providers

Not sure what exactly you mean by this but maybe take a look at IPFS, although it's more P2P then federation.

Federated internet

Internet is already fairly federated by nature - most commonly used protocols in the OSI stack are open and you can host your own components of critical infrastructure. Getting others to interact with them might be difficult due to security & privacy issues.

[mutilationwave@lemmy.world]

I was interested, but I can't click to visit any of the forums.

[dontblink@feddit.it]

Didn't know about CENO, it looks super cool! Might have to dig more into TOR as well

[idkwhatusernametoputherelolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

You have to create a Briar profile in the app, then go to "Request Forums" on the webpage copy paste their link and add them, and you also have to copy paste your link and put it on the webpage in the blank space where is says "Enter your Briar Link"

[whyjiffie@sh.itjust.works]

github is not just about git though.

[whyjiffie@sh.itjust.works]

AP would actually work fairly well as a messaging protocol

except when a temporary disruption in the connection results in new posts/comments/etc to not get delivered

[balsoft@lemmy.ml]

Yep, but the rest can mostly be replaced with a mailing list. Or, if you're allergic to email, there's also https://forgejo.org/.

[gashead76@lemmy.world]

But that's true of any network connected messaging protocol, making sure a message is delivered could be implemented client side. The issue with AP objects not making it to other clients / servers is more about federation discovery.

[whyjiffie@sh.itjust.works]

I'm not allergic to emails, I use them a lot, but I think a mailing list is not a federated github, but a mess.

Forgejo is a much better choice in my opinion.

[whyjiffie@sh.itjust.works]

no, it isn't for

• matrix, because if the servers ever connect again, the message will get through. this is what's called an "eventually consistent" system
• any mainstream and semi-mainstream messengers, where there is a single server

the client shouldn't be dealing with issues between servers. that's the servers responsibility. if the server has told the client that it got the message, what is there anymore for the client to do?

The issue with AP objects not making it to other clients / servers is more about federation discovery.

I don't think so. if you know the recipient, you know it's servername too. and then your server can forward it to theirs.

I think the problem here is that messages are not always delivered.