JD Vance stuns Munich conference with blistering attack on Europe’s leaders
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Well got to min max and humans historical max out the Intel Stat versus other animals so it's traditionally move. Plus you know, massive embezzlement opportunities.
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If they could stop drinking for a couple decades I think they could do some awesome stuff. When the Soviets first took power they were prohibitionists, and that generation of Russians went on to beat the Nazis and launch Sputnik, despite Stalin.
Russia feels like the kid in school who you know is abused but is an asshole because of being abused. The Golden Horde was awful, to be sure, but we all need to let the healing happen.
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Reminds me of family guy Ireland before whisky.
https://youtu.be/7-yQ4s6IBec?ZGzGcnBg86TWheeA
If they ever do, maybe They can something like in Atomic Heart. Good communist technology for all people to enjoy
right now I'm questioning if murica can not be a cyberpunk dystopia. Which would also fall in like with Atomic Heart.... -
Indeed. Which makes it an even bigger problem that there are hardly enough moderate politicians saying "here's what we hear you saying about migration and he's what we will actually do to rectify that"
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Alienating whatever remaining trade partners you had outside of the two local ones, which your friends in the administration tariffed and threatened to annex, is going to go tremendously. Sure are making America First... to find out what happens when no other country is willing to sell their resources to us.
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He's just reading what his Russian speech writer told him to.
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"Mishandling migration" is a pessimist position. With this position you can be wrong all the time, and then when an event occurs that false in the pessimistic view "you" claim full victory.
It is similar to the story of doctors and a terminal patient that keeps outliving the diagnosis (although doctors dont celebrate the moment thay are proven right).For example why "populist concerns" are not to be taken too seriously are football hooligans. True (white) nationals tearing down city centres, yet you don't hear anything about "bad integration" or "religion of peace", or any conversation from that corner.
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Migration being a model for creating both a scapegoat and a lowest of the low wage slavery class is a capitalist and fascist strategy. Vance acts as a critic of it, but right wingers, populists, are never onboard with enabling new residents to have better chances, education, work etc.
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It’s a good point you make.
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I completely forgot about that show. What a trip
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I prefer to think of it as likening his opinions to cold sores.
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Fuck off with that BS. We don't need you authoritarians to illegitimise our leaders, insert a racism wedge between us and misrepresent what our "populous" wants. We know that our values are not aligned with a conservative, VP-to-fucking-trump,
Putin's puppet, project 2025 POS. And we don't need to look for a "threat of within" when we need to stand united against russia and now US influence.When AfD neo nazis, the richest asshole in the world, the US leadership, Putin and north Korea all praise and support each other we can see through your BS.
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Unless AfD gains power. Which is one of the reasons they want AfD to gain power. Part of the new Axis is part of the old Axis.
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Also makes me think of a guy I know who I went to high school with, just incredibly smart. Ended up getting to the National Science Fair and got an honorable mention and also a bunch of newspaper attention. Fifteen years later, he was in prison for getting caught with a backpack full of meth cooking equipment.
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death to america?
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"Mishandling migration" is a pessimist position
If you follow that logic nobody is allowed to genuinely criticise immigration policy.
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mishandling migration
Racism
Are you calling it racism because Vance said it, or would you claim that anyone who thinks migration in Europe has been mishandled is racist?
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That's fine, people with dignity don't have "leaders". That's about JD too.
And there are feedbacks in human societies, meaning that AfD and such would have much less popularity if, first, they had a less stinky alternative as "counter-system" parties, second, were not given publicity as a scarecrow, third, were not given media pressure.
It's natural that in some conditions people run from the political mainstream and want something not associated with that swamp. It's also natural that "black PR" is still PR, it puts AfD (or someone else) on a list of associations in one's mind as being against that mainstream (no matter how fascist or populist). And it's also natural that when you see media pressure, you want to push back.
People making decisions love to think in directions, but in fact thinking in categories and weights between them is better. Like with diversifying investments. If you invest a lot in the left-vs-right dynamic, no matter which side, the results are unpredictable, but you affect their possible magnitude, the more you invest, the more it is. So if someone puts a lot of pressure "to fight fascism", they might cause a rebirth of fascism that wouldn't have happened otherwise.
For the same reason I'm still not sure Trump is worse for Ukraine than someone else. You have to end the war at some point. If there's no military way to restore Ukraine's sovereignty over all of its territory, that may realistically be attempted, then that won't happen anyway. They are not suggesting Ukraine to recognize annexation, but even if they were, the old world order is dying, and formal sovereignty in the UN might do little good in future. Some things they say suggest they may do for Ukraine a lot of what Ukrainians love to dream about in terms of restoration and armaments. Just - also controlling Russia by allowing it to sell its resources again. Probably with a deal worse for Russia than before, and the resulting prices might be less competitive than before.
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I think this people have long already disqualified their ability to speech anything worth of coherent value, why keep listening them or take note of their words? They do not follow the rules of that game, is not possible to play on the same terms so that battleground is a distraction at best, a cancer at worst.
Don’t feed the troll, don’t support the bully.
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the french did some great stuff with just a metal blade
