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Kindle Is Making It Harder to Switch to Rival eReader Brands.

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  • R [email protected]

    Libby is able to sync with your kindle, and then you just choose "send to Kindle" on your phone when checking a book out and the book will appear in your Kindle library.

    https://help.libbyapp.com/en-us/6017.htm

    If you have a Kindle, this is 100% the best way to read books.

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    pretty sure that is us only

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    • T [email protected]

      The Nova 3 released in late 2020, it hasn’t existed for 8 years.

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      #171

      Ah shit I think you are right. Feels like I have had it forever but seems that was a false memory of some sort.

      I bought it while I lived in my previous apartment which I feel was longer ago and so I got a bit confused with the dates I think lol. Thanks for pointing it out.

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      • A [email protected]

        IIRC it’s not as feature complete as the fat client

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        This. I've personally found it easiest to use Calibre to strip DRM & get things tidy, then use Audiobookshelf to manage both my ebooks and audiobooks

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        • C [email protected]

          On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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          I wonder if this is at all related to the EU changes to eBook DRM standards, where the standard Kindle Adobe DRM isn't compliant

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          • M [email protected]

            No, the files are mostly owned by the publisher. That's why you sometimes have stories where books disappear from Kindles because the rights holders revoke Amazon's license to sell their books. It's what happened with one version of Orwell's 1984, ironically.

            It's ridiculous, if you ask me, but that's the reality with Broken By Design DRM ebooks.

            That's why it's prudent for any buyers of ebooks to download them as soon as you can, and put them in a library like "Calibre", that way, even if Amazon loses their license to sell those publishers books, you still have access to the ebooks you bought with your money.
            And that's why it's bad that Amazon is removing the option to download the files yourself. And why I recommend people to take their business and wallets elsewhere! Stop giving Bezos your money.

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            And Amazaon doesn't have to reimburse you then, since they revoked your permission to read them, which is what you paid for?

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              And Amazaon doesn't have to reimburse you then, since they revoked your permission to read them, which is what you paid for?

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              It's not what happened when they removed 1984 off of people's Kindles. I think somewhere in the fine print, they'll probably have a clause that says they're allowed to do that.

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              • generic_computers@lemmy.zipG [email protected]

                I thought you could load bookshop.org eBookd onto a Kindle, but it seems they have their own DRM and you need to use their own app...

                Some of their books are DRM free, but not all. I thought they all were, but it turns out I was wrong.

                So... maybe even bookshop.org isn't the best option for Kindles.

                I guess there really is only one option left...

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                I went researched a few years ago and concluded that there is no option for writers to be guaranteed "no piracy" and that's why they prefer having paperbooks. (That is also after brainstorming with a few people to publish my own book if it were...) and those days i was trying to find an important book in electronic format and could not find it anywhere, the paper 10th edition version (which i eventually bought) is like 1000 pages and the e version i found was 200 ish pages summary. So my sad conclusion was that i just need a big'ol scanner at home, just so that i can scan everything that i buy in paper just because i could then keep it personally on my e-reader (and having destroyedbinding of each book i buy lmao).... is that too much to ask... my wife says no.... lol

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                • dulce_3t_decorum_3st@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                  Oddly enough, pirated ebooks are a malware minefield. And hard to find.

                  That said, I have about 8000.

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                  Where are you going to that they are a malware issue?

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                  • amphy@lemmy.caA [email protected]

                    This. I've personally found it easiest to use Calibre to strip DRM & get things tidy, then use Audiobookshelf to manage both my ebooks and audiobooks

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                    It does ebooks too?

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                    • noxypaws@pawb.socialN [email protected]

                      That was amusingly well timed:

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                      I've jailbroken every Kindle fire I've ever owned, is this something new?

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                      • R [email protected]

                        Undernet and #bookz for me somehow turned out to be easier than more popular styles of piracy.

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                        Is bookz a channel in undernet?

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                        • A [email protected]

                          It does ebooks too?

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                          Yep! Here's an ebook I have hosted through Audiobookshelf, reading it over the Internet using my domain & reverse proxy.

                          (The top bar is shown/hidden when you tap the screen, so it's not always in the way like this)

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Lol

                            sorry vibrating/heating function locked until daily dues are paid.

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                            Safety eject option locked until subscription is paid. "911. I have a dildo shoved in my ass and my safety eject subscription ran out. Please help!" you know, it sounds crazy and like this could never happen but I say it's just crazy enough it will happen. Look at who the American president is. That's all the proof you need.

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                              On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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                              Wait, people who have Kindles buy their books from Amazon?

                              I always just got mine from a certain private mouse tracker.

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                              • M [email protected]

                                Easier said than done. Had a quick search. In 45km of my home there is not one reMarkable, PineNone or Bookeen. There is 2 kobos. And around 200 kindles. Kindes are starting at 5 bucks for ones that look a little beat up. Kobos are 80 bucks. You can still avoid buying most books from amazon. Obviously not all. Even owning Kobo there are some books you end up buying from Amazon. They have the largest foreign language library. There are thousands of popular books which you cannot get in a foreign language anywhere else these days. And you have to acknowledge that most people in the world are not reading books in English.

                                Sometimes you can get a solid deal. If youre super patient or lucky. But the 2nd hand market will generally always follow the market distribution of retail.

                                So long as kindle is domninating. 2nd hand users are gonna be heavily pressured into buying kindle.

                                I wholeheartedly agree that we shouldnt support amazon and i do think they are making kindles a pain.

                                But i dont think you can expect people to just find 2nd hand alternatives like what you listed. Especially when you consider the demographic of people shopping for eraders.

                                This is why i find these kinds of comment chains. We all love to vote with our money, but its not that simple for a lot of people. Maybe instead of this "you get what you deserve" attitude we could put more energy towards promoting the jailbreaks and trying to make those as accessible as possible for your chineese grandma to be able to do it herself on her Windows Vista.

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                                FWIW my point isn't about shaming people, it's to make buyers fully aware of the consequence of their actions, both political and ecological. My point is to show that actual alternatives exist and yes they are more rare and expensive (probably also because they are rare, which is by design for Amazon, they do have scale in mind from the founding of the company, they undercut in order to dominate all marketplaces!). I genuinely wish the options I listed were both cheaper and more available. Now... it's a bit like buying clothes from Primark vs e.g. Patagonia. The pricing is radically different, and their are both selling clothes, but I'd argue they are NOT the same products, including the ecological impact. So... again, not trying to shame anyone, solely show that alternatives, with different trade off, do actually exist TODAY. Every time one person try to go with the cheap and popular, they are tipping the scale to, IMHO, worst solutions for everyone else, including the 2nd hand market.

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                                  FWIW my point isn't about shaming people, it's to make buyers fully aware of the consequence of their actions, both political and ecological. My point is to show that actual alternatives exist and yes they are more rare and expensive (probably also because they are rare, which is by design for Amazon, they do have scale in mind from the founding of the company, they undercut in order to dominate all marketplaces!). I genuinely wish the options I listed were both cheaper and more available. Now... it's a bit like buying clothes from Primark vs e.g. Patagonia. The pricing is radically different, and their are both selling clothes, but I'd argue they are NOT the same products, including the ecological impact. So... again, not trying to shame anyone, solely show that alternatives, with different trade off, do actually exist TODAY. Every time one person try to go with the cheap and popular, they are tipping the scale to, IMHO, worst solutions for everyone else, including the 2nd hand market.

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                                  Related https://lemmy.world/post/25825690

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