Tails no longer recommending balenaEtcher
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Dude really goes to a cyber security community and hits them with the 'i have nothing to hide'
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i still had issues using 150MB electron based bloated and heavy software instead of rufus, not that it worked for me anyway
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https://circle.gnome.org? Never tried their ISO software, I just use dd.
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I use a microSD to usb adapter and have 2 spinning rust disks. So it's /sdc for me, but i still always double check. Dd isn't called the disk destroyer for nothing.
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Unrelated to balenaEtcher but I haven't been able to flash ISO files from Windows 11, either by using Rufus, Etcher, Fedora Media Writer, or even the WSL. I need to borrow a computer running a FLOSS operating system or to install OpenBSD first, then from OpenBSD to download and burn an ISO file on my USB drive.
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Thats a shame, it was one of the few disk imagers that "just worked"
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I don't think
oflags=directhas any influence on the result. Apparently that's about disabling the page cache in the kernel, which can avoid a situation in which the system slows down due to buildup yet-to-write pages. -
I also read this as Ron's voice!Nah as much as i love doing stuff via terminal, I am extra paranoid specifically about writing to the wrong device and losing data; I prefer as many confirmations as possible that I'm writing to the correct drive, and graphical installers tend to give me just a few more reassurances. A few examples would be stuff like
- a graphical representation of partitions (the general layout of a drive tends to offer an easy 'fingerprint' in my mind; like the pattern of partitions help me confirm I'm looking at, say, a Debian install USB compared to a single-partition general purpose storage disk)
- icons for different types of devices, like an SD card, USB, or hard disk icon
- confirmation dialogues summarizing what device is targeted, and what all will be performed
I'm also the kind of person who stares at a written email worrying about every last nuance of my phrasing, so
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I only tried to use it once, and same. 150MB of a Web app to copy an ISO? I think I was using a Macbook to flash it and decided to use ventoy instead, with my PC.
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It reminded me when I told a coworker he could force the Windows shutdowns with the command 'shutdown -p -f" from either a Run.exe or a cmd window.
Then he said it wasn't working, and that the cmd window would just open and close quickly but no shutdown.
Imagine my surprise when he was doing shutdown -pf
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Perhaps not. But the flag allows for dire I/O for data, bypassing buffers which can be overrun with certain size blocks, potentially causing dirty buffer depending on the machine being used. My understanding is that it's "more reliable" for writing (especially on shitty USB Flash drives) and getting the exact ISO properly written.
But it could be useless all the same - I'm just pointing out that OPs command is not the one recommended by Fedora when writing their ISO. Also OP is less likely to pull the drive before buffers have flushed this way.
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That sounds like an issue with your computer rather than W11. I just used Etcher on my W11 desktop to flash Mint XFCE yesterday with no issues.
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I understand that it needed a GUI, but 150 megs?? When :
~ ❯ ll `which dd` -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 63K Sep 29 16:36 /usr/bin/dd* ~ ❯ -
Yeah Mac has dd too, I often forget about the terminal existing there. I wish Ventoy for Mac was a thing tho.
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Oh yeah that's where I was getting at, but I didn't have time to write that out earlier. I agree that OP probably pulled out the usb stick before buffers were flushed. I imagine that direct I/O would mitigate this problem a lot because presumably whatever buffers still exist (there would some hardware buffers and I think Linux kernel I/O buffers) will be minimal compared to the potentially large amount of dirty pages one might accumulate using normal cached writes. So I imagine those buffers would be empty very shortly (less than one second maybe?) after dd finishes, whereas I've seen regular dd finish tens of seconds before my usb stick stopped blinking it's LED. Still if you wait for that long the result will be the same.
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I guess I could install Ventoy on the raspberry Pi's SD card, but I prefer it to be bare, since the idea is to keep it simple.
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I did read the post before constructing my comment and that's why I feel sad for seeing privacy concerns popping up at balena, because that's just my fav.
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is there something special needed for windows isos, it doesnt seem to want to boot for me
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Thanks for the tip, I'll try that with different computers.
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Oh, damn, that was the joke!? Went right over my head lol
