Multiple Teslas set on fire in Germany
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“Just because they disagree with the politics” look we can say what we want about the burning Teslas part this isn’t a “little disagreement”. Musk’s a full-blown turbo-Nazi and in and in Germany, where this happened, he’s pouring money into the AFD which is essentially just the return of a German Nazi party. Don’t water it down.
That is politics. Are you suggesting it is acceptable to destroy private property that belongs to the members of the AFD?
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Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.
Maybe I've already sold my Tesla and I'm no longer supporting Musk in any shape or form. I might be changing the mind of a Tesla owner currently reading this.
You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have.
Agreed. You are free to choose your own car along with it's associated running costs.
That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.
It is how insurance works. If causes of risks can be directly identified and measured then they can be directly priced. Any insurer not doing so will lose business.
who are they going to sell it to?
They will have to drop the price until they find a buyer. That will affect new car sales and damage Musk further. See how this works?
Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.
Yep. For a low enough price, people may be willing to take the vandalism risk and also become a social pariah.
Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens, and only then you might change your mind. It doesn’t need to be about Tesla. It doesn’t even need to be about something you agree with.
Insurance prices will rise across the board, maybe more for Tesla, but also for other brands. That is just how insurance works.
You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla. You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.
You are condoning terrorism. Do better.
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ICE cars are filled with gasoline and function by blowing it up, the risk is clear. EVs should not be catching fire.
Also yea, I want people to use public transportation, actually. And I want villages to return, not these horrendous sprawling “small towns” where, despite having less stuff than my Montréal neighbourhood, it’s a huge pain to get anywhere and you need a car at least simply because too many jobs that could be remote aren’t.
just to clarify I'm not talking about "EVs". I'm talking about teslas. they're famously prone to catching fire.
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All cars are required to have insurance in most European countries, Germany included. Not sure if collateral damage by vandalism is covered by default, but most of the time you are covered against any damage that you yourself didn't cause, so I assume it is covered.
Required insurance doesnt cover thing like that tho. It covers your liability not your car from the elements. For that you need at least partial coverage which tbh most people with Teslas probably have.
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I hear Aquaman is buying em
Is this a Ben Shapiro reference?
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Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens, and only then you might change your mind. It doesn’t need to be about Tesla. It doesn’t even need to be about something you agree with.
Insurance prices will rise across the board, maybe more for Tesla, but also for other brands. That is just how insurance works.
You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla. You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.
You are condoning terrorism. Do better.
Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens,
Only if I buy a Tesla.
Insurance prices will rise across the board
Nope. This vandalism risk is only related to Tesla.
also for other brands.
Why? They are not being vandalised, have no change in risk so have no premium adjustment.
That is just how insurance works.
You obviously have no idea how insurance works.
You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla.
Agreed.
You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.
Vandalism accomplishes the goal faster and more aggressively
You are condoning terrorism. Do better.
I'm condoning nothing. I will even explicitly say Don't Vandalise Cars. Happy?
What I am doing is explaining how Musk is affected if people continue to vandalise Teslas.
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Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.
You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have. That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.
Besides, you tell people to sell their cars, while you acknowledge the big financial hit that would involve; who are they going to sell it to? Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.
Tesla owners are people who could afford luxury cars, and NEW Tesla owners are people who are fine with Nazis, that is, exterminating a fuckton of helpless people. The first category, I'm sorry for but they can afford the insurance and if they were stupid enough not to get one, even now when it's obvious that they need it, it's their loss. The second category we are at war with, and if it ever goes full blown, idk if somebody told you how wars work, but I'll be killing them. Setting their car on fire is pretty tame compared to that.
Do people think wars consist of the parties sending strongly worded letters at each other?
Edit: and toppling a billionaire to prevent a full blown war that will kill a few million people worldwide is worth ANYTHING short of killing a few million people worldwide.
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Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens,
Only if I buy a Tesla.
Insurance prices will rise across the board
Nope. This vandalism risk is only related to Tesla.
also for other brands.
Why? They are not being vandalised, have no change in risk so have no premium adjustment.
That is just how insurance works.
You obviously have no idea how insurance works.
You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla.
Agreed.
You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.
Vandalism accomplishes the goal faster and more aggressively
You are condoning terrorism. Do better.
I'm condoning nothing. I will even explicitly say Don't Vandalise Cars. Happy?
What I am doing is explaining how Musk is affected if people continue to vandalise Teslas.
Only if I buy a Tesla.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Yes, you are the villain here.
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That is politics. Are you suggesting it is acceptable to destroy private property that belongs to the members of the AFD?
A thousand times yes lol. Surprised you're on ml instead of world with this kind of take.
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The time for petitions and lobbying have passed. Our regulatory agencies have been captured and our politicians bought.
In the future it'll only get more and more dangerous to associate with Teslas at all. Anyone who values their personal safety should unload it now.
I will be reporting anyone I catch destroying otherwise innocent people's property to the authorities. I will not be associated with you fucking animals.
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Imagine you buy a car and it gets burned down because the owner of the car company turns out to be a Nazi.
I would like Tesla to go bankrupt too but cheering on regular peoples property being destroyed is wrong.
Totally agree and the fucker already got the money. They are just fucking other people's lives. However, we can agree that if you think you're buying a car that someone is going to burn down, then that's a good deterrent to buy them. So I can also see the positive side of things. And all these cars are probably insured against vandalism anyway
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I will be reporting anyone I catch destroying otherwise innocent people's property to the authorities. I will not be associated with you fucking animals.
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All cars are required to have insurance in most European countries, Germany included. Not sure if collateral damage by vandalism is covered by default, but most of the time you are covered against any damage that you yourself didn't cause, so I assume it is covered.
I can assure you if you have a second hand 10 year old car and it burns down, you’ll get 3000€ from insurance, and good luck finding a replacement for that money.
“They have insurance” doesn’t solve all problems when you’re struggling and need a car for work.
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Only if I buy a Tesla.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Yes, you are the villain here.
Holy shit. Did you just invoke Martin Niemöller in defense of a Nazi?
Unbelievable.
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Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens,
Only if I buy a Tesla.
Insurance prices will rise across the board
Nope. This vandalism risk is only related to Tesla.
also for other brands.
Why? They are not being vandalised, have no change in risk so have no premium adjustment.
That is just how insurance works.
You obviously have no idea how insurance works.
You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla.
Agreed.
You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.
Vandalism accomplishes the goal faster and more aggressively
You are condoning terrorism. Do better.
I'm condoning nothing. I will even explicitly say Don't Vandalise Cars. Happy?
What I am doing is explaining how Musk is affected if people continue to vandalise Teslas.
No that’s the thing, it won’t only be when you buy a Tesla, it will be when you do whatever the mob terrorists deem wrong.
Insurance premiums will rise across the board. Ask two or three insurance companies if you don’t want to take my word for it. You have no idea how insurance businesses operate.
I’m glad you do not condone vandalism.
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I can assure you if you have a second hand 10 year old car and it burns down, you’ll get 3000€ from insurance, and good luck finding a replacement for that money.
“They have insurance” doesn’t solve all problems when you’re struggling and need a car for work.
So you can buy another 10 years old car with that.
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Totally agree and the fucker already got the money. They are just fucking other people's lives. However, we can agree that if you think you're buying a car that someone is going to burn down, then that's a good deterrent to buy them. So I can also see the positive side of things. And all these cars are probably insured against vandalism anyway
Sometimes sacrifices have to be made to get the message across.
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some of them maybe? surely not all?
You don't need insurance FOR your car. You MUST have a "Haftpflichtversicherung" - but that only covers damage done by you and your car. If you only have that, you'll get exactly 0 Euro.
Most people here have partial coverage, so if glass breaks, you get into an accident with a wild animal or you car gets stolen - and you'll get some money back.
Full coverage would also include stupid mistakes you made. As long as they are not on purpose or done by speeding, drinking and driving and stuff like that.
So yeah, most people with newer cars would have full coverage. Expensive tho. So older cars usually only have partial or none coverage - only "Haftpflichtversicherung" is a must. Without you are not allowed to have a car in traffic.
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All cars are required to have insurance in most European countries, Germany included. Not sure if collateral damage by vandalism is covered by default, but most of the time you are covered against any damage that you yourself didn't cause, so I assume it is covered.
Not so in Austria. Only Haftpflichtversicherung is required which only covers the car owner's liability.
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A waste of resources.
They all could've been sold and the money used to help poor people.
Now there's nothing. Yay.
Kids in Africa could eat those cars!