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  • ? Guest

    I’m running Plex with the Xbox One Digital TV Tuner for live TV channels. Would that work with Jellyfin now? When I set this system up, Plex was the only thing that I got to work.

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    I use the HDhomerun

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      I use the HDhomerun

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      I have no experience of actual HdHomerun devices, but I tried emulating HDHomerun with tvheadend and antennas when I was setting up. I didn’t get that to work with Plex, so I’m not sure that would work with jellyfin either. It wouldn’t make sense to buy new equipment since Plex works fine with what I already own (and I generally avoid buying USA products)

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        1. You absolutely need to be careful sharing your own media with people outside your household as that's probably illegal. If you still need to you can setup a VPN.

        2. The Jellyfin music player has recently seen a lot of love

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        1. So it has sonic analysis and sonic adventures? It has “stations”?
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          Why would you waste your energy and manage something yourself when they collect your data anyway?

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          • vendetta9076@sh.itjust.worksV [email protected]

            Jellyfin for me sucks. Not the server, the client. It works great on my wife's machine but whenever I wanna watch something I get constant issues with crashing and seeking not working.

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            This is why I’ve stuck with Emby.

            I get why people switched, and I’m open to it eventually, but Emby is much more polished. That’s not to say the Emby clients don’t also crash from time to time.

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            • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]
              1. You absolutely need to be careful sharing your own media with people outside your household as that's probably illegal. If you still need to you can setup a VPN.

              2. The Jellyfin music player has recently seen a lot of love

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              I would be genuinely surprised if fair use draws the line on format-shifted, legally purchased media, at "remote watch-together", leaving format-shifting and local watch-together in-tact.

              If it were up to the studio's interpretation of the law, you'd need to purchase a license for each person during local watch-together.

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              • vendetta9076@sh.itjust.worksV [email protected]

                Jellyfin for me sucks. Not the server, the client. It works great on my wife's machine but whenever I wanna watch something I get constant issues with crashing and seeking not working.

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                If you're trying to watch 4k content in a browser, AFAIK, Edge is the only one capable.

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                  I have no experience of actual HdHomerun devices, but I tried emulating HDHomerun with tvheadend and antennas when I was setting up. I didn’t get that to work with Plex, so I’m not sure that would work with jellyfin either. It wouldn’t make sense to buy new equipment since Plex works fine with what I already own (and I generally avoid buying USA products)

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                  That's fair

                  However I have to say the HDhomerun has been fantastic. It is a simple device that provides a local web API that allows devices on the network to request a channel stream. My device died after a few years and they replaced it for free.

                  If Plex works for you that's great. However if your current setup breaks I would look into the HDhomerun

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                    Sounds like a transcoding issue which AFAIK can depend on the machine you try to play this with. Doesn't really solve your problem other than next time get something that's better at playing more video formats, which is a hilarious and silly problem to have these days.

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                    Its a windows desktop lmao.

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                      If you're trying to watch 4k content in a browser, AFAIK, Edge is the only one capable.

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                      Nah, the dedicated client.

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                      • vendetta9076@sh.itjust.worksV [email protected]

                        Its a windows desktop lmao.

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                        Lmao indeed.

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                        • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zipP [email protected]

                          That's fair

                          However I have to say the HDhomerun has been fantastic. It is a simple device that provides a local web API that allows devices on the network to request a channel stream. My device died after a few years and they replaced it for free.

                          If Plex works for you that's great. However if your current setup breaks I would look into the HDhomerun

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                          I will keep that in mind!

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                            Can't figure out why you would use Plex over jellyfin, I have a life time pass to Plex, I haven't used it in years, this isn't about money, it's about not having garbage running on your machine.

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                            I have been trying to use jellyfin locally but subtitles have issues some times depending on the show or format. Also recently my wife watched 2 episodes more than me so we needed to go back 2 episodes and only way to do that from the Up Next or Resume screens was to start a new search of the show and click into the season and then find the episode. I get supporting open source but for my jellyfin only has 70% of the features I use weekly on Plex. Definitely supporting it and trying to use it but it's not feature parity for me

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                              1. You absolutely need to be careful sharing your own media with people outside your household as that's probably illegal. If you still need to you can setup a VPN.

                              2. The Jellyfin music player has recently seen a lot of love

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                              1. This hasn’t been a notable issue in a while. That’s why Plex’s https-by-default was such a big deal. With https, even your ISP can’t see what you’re streaming. They can see that something is being streamed, but not what specifically.

                              Also, you totally glossed over the fact that Plex is simply easier for non-savvy people to set up. Plex provides a unified login experience similar to major streaming services, which Jellyfin simply can’t provide; If your mother-in-law can figure out how to log into Netflix on her TV, she can figure out how to log into Plex too.

                              And the unfortunate truth is that Plex’s remote access is much easier for 90% of users to figure out. It doesn’t require VPNs or reverse proxies at all. You just forward a port and anyone with access can easily see your server. But my MIL’s TV doesn’t even have access to a Jellyfin app without sideloading. Not to mention the fact that I’d need to walk her through actually setting the app up once it is installed, because there is no unified system for logging in. And if I’m not using a reverse proxy for my Jellyfin server, then I also need to walk her through setting up Tailscale, assuming her TV is even capable of using it at all.

                              Any single one of those hurdles would make Jellyfin a non-starter if I want to walk my MIL through the setup over the phone, and they’re all currently present. And some of them will never be fixed, by design. For instance, the lack of a unified login page is by design, because a unified login would require a centralized server for the app to phone home too. That centralization is exactly what Jellyfin was made to rebel against, so it’s a problem that will never be “solved”; It is seen by the devs and FOSS enthusiasts as a feature, not an issue.

                              From a FOSS perspective, Jellyfin is a modern marvel. But it’s definitely not at the same level as Plex when you compare ease of setup or remote access.

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                                1. This hasn’t been a notable issue in a while. That’s why Plex’s https-by-default was such a big deal. With https, even your ISP can’t see what you’re streaming. They can see that something is being streamed, but not what specifically.

                                Also, you totally glossed over the fact that Plex is simply easier for non-savvy people to set up. Plex provides a unified login experience similar to major streaming services, which Jellyfin simply can’t provide; If your mother-in-law can figure out how to log into Netflix on her TV, she can figure out how to log into Plex too.

                                And the unfortunate truth is that Plex’s remote access is much easier for 90% of users to figure out. It doesn’t require VPNs or reverse proxies at all. You just forward a port and anyone with access can easily see your server. But my MIL’s TV doesn’t even have access to a Jellyfin app without sideloading. Not to mention the fact that I’d need to walk her through actually setting the app up once it is installed, because there is no unified system for logging in. And if I’m not using a reverse proxy for my Jellyfin server, then I also need to walk her through setting up Tailscale, assuming her TV is even capable of using it at all.

                                Any single one of those hurdles would make Jellyfin a non-starter if I want to walk my MIL through the setup over the phone, and they’re all currently present. And some of them will never be fixed, by design. For instance, the lack of a unified login page is by design, because a unified login would require a centralized server for the app to phone home too. That centralization is exactly what Jellyfin was made to rebel against, so it’s a problem that will never be “solved”; It is seen by the devs and FOSS enthusiasts as a feature, not an issue.

                                From a FOSS perspective, Jellyfin is a modern marvel. But it’s definitely not at the same level as Plex when you compare ease of setup or remote access.

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                                You definitely do not want to expose Plex or Jellyfin to the internet.

                                That's a great way to get PWD as Plex has had its fair share of vulnerabilities

                                Port forwarding is almost is to easy to do as people do it without understanding the risk. That's one of the ways you end up with massive botnets.

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                                  agree in principal, but in practice:

                                  1. parents who live across the state

                                  2. plexamp for music

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                                  Remote access is definitely a pain, and just surfacing the ports is a bad idea.

                                  Finamp is close. No visualization, No normalization, and there's gapless playback but no crossfading.

                                  I use tailscale to watch videos and play music remotely.

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                                    Remote access is definitely a pain, and just surfacing the ports is a bad idea.

                                    Finamp is close. No visualization, No normalization, and there's gapless playback but no crossfading.

                                    I use tailscale to watch videos and play music remotely.

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                                    Crossfading and normalization would both independently be dealbreakers for me. I can't go back

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                                      Crossfading and normalization would both independently be dealbreakers for me. I can't go back

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                                      Unfortunately for a crossfading they need to wait for jellyfin to provide it on their side.

                                      I wouldn't be surprised to find a normalization plugin though.

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                                        Crossfading and normalization would both independently be dealbreakers for me. I can't go back

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                                        Just do Navidrome. It's better anyway in a multitude of ways.

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                                          All the people yes jellyfin is great but plex is easiest to share to non tech people to just download an app and they are instantly connected to my server. It’s just works and it’s a lot easier to explain to my family then jellyfin is.

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