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Israeli army fires at French UNIFIL patrol near Rmeish in South Lebanon

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  • S [email protected]

    I had a hunch, looks like I was basically right.

    I... come from a family that's... well let me just put it this way:

    The last time I talked to my dad, I think 3 years ago now at this point, he was fully, fully down the QAnon rabbit hole, told me about how Tom Hanks' son rapes and kills children, after extracting their adrenochrome... and he then proceeded to show me how he partially mills, taps, and assembles AR 15s and 18s in his garage, having sourced parts that don't have serial numbers... thats what you call a ghost gun.

    He is exactly the kind of person that does these 180 flip flops and ... either doesn't remember he did, or has an elaborate nonsensical excuse/explanation.

    I am unfortunately way, way too familiar with basically nearly every right wing conspiracy theory that's existed in the last 40 years.

    ... I actually have Jewish cousins, and ... yeah, basically since as long as I can remember, he's made bigoted 'jokes' either behind their backs or occasionally even actually at family functions.

    My dad is my archetype for MAGA people: an abusive alcoholic narcissist asshole with no friends, who is never wrong, proficient in gaslighting, life didn't go the way he wanted it to, and it's all the fault of whoever right wing AM radio/ Fox News/ insane facebook posts and shit tier 'journalist' grifters told him to be mad at in the last week.

    ... thats all probably a bit more info than necessary, but I'm still pretty traumatized from a life time of that, and venting helps lol.

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    Sorry to hear that and thanks for sharing.

    My dad is nowhere near as bad, but I have to helplessly watch how he slides deeper and deeper into the whole magaverse bullshit and drags my mom with him, they used to be open minded and reasonable, well educated people but since they retired they've got nothing else to do but read shit on the Internet to be outraged about and watch fascist news. I try to have reasonable conversations with them when visiting, but it gets worse as they get older, like they are not full blown magats or fascists but they say how there's pedophiles everywhere, communists are about to take over europe and climate change is just a story by some shadowy elite to scam governments and people, and are out to hurt the holy economy.
    The kicker is that life has gone very well for them, they're struggling a little in retirement now since they failed to put any money aside other than their basic pensions, so there isn't even a reason to be this upset. You might call it pearl clutching, but it's not even that. My dad fled a communist country and built a good life from basically nothing for himself and our family, and now he rants about immigrants who are just trying to do the same. Anyway, also sorry for oversharing.

    I just made a comment about racists being hypocrites, which ok, is not exactly clever or very observant, but somehow that got me labelled as a zionist lol.

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      This argument around here is usually used to criticize pro-Palestinians for not falling in line with the DNC, with the idea being that they're all MAGAs or Russian trolls who wanted to sow division inside the anti-Trump coalition and don't actually care about Palestine. If that assumption was true, the number of people in online criticizing the US government's support of Israel would go down significantly after the election and especially after Trump's inauguration. Well, at least around here that didn't happen, but liberal pseudo-Zionists really like to pretend it did because otherwise they'd have to admit they were wrong. Anyway what I'm trying to say is: It might be a good idea to specify that you're talking about MAGA next time, because otherwise many people here will assume you're talking about the anti-Zionist left as that's the overwhelmingly more common version here.

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      That is way too construed for me, who even thinks like that? I just tried to poke fun at their hypocrisy, apparently I have to specify an allegiance when doing a shit take

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        Of all people I’d think it would be the French, they don’t fuck around.

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        Our current government is openly pro-israel and anti-palestinian, we're not gonna do squat.
        They've been calling any criticism towars bibi and any palestinian support antisemitic for the past 2 years - and most of the billionaires-controlled media has happily done the same.
        Even if soldiers are killed, it's gonna be labeled a communication incident or some shit.

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        • B [email protected]

          If they were doing a genocide, why would they care if the world was watching though? Why care at all what anyone else thought if they were committing to deleting a culture off the planet?

          You sound like a Q-Anon conspiracy theory nutjob.

          I need more from you, like a news article or factual Wikipedia article or literally anything with substance because i am having trouble believing anything anyone says at face value on the internet.

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          You just claimed that Hamas hides behind children in hospitals backed up but fucked all and you never provided anything. And no, asking questions is not a response to it. So your note in any position tho make demands like that.

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            You just claimed that Hamas hides behind children in hospitals backed up but fucked all and you never provided anything. And no, asking questions is not a response to it. So your note in any position tho make demands like that.

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            I'm trying to replace the nonsense propaganda that I was told with factual truth and asking you for help with shit i can read to better inform myself.

            You essentially told me to go fuck myself. Why?

            Is your position so weak that you can't provide sources of credible reading? Sounds like you are full of shit.

            I can easily google shit myself, but I am here asking for curated content that is credible and would align with everything everyone here is talking about.

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              I'm trying to replace the nonsense propaganda that I was told with factual truth and asking you for help with shit i can read to better inform myself.

              You essentially told me to go fuck myself. Why?

              Is your position so weak that you can't provide sources of credible reading? Sounds like you are full of shit.

              I can easily google shit myself, but I am here asking for curated content that is credible and would align with everything everyone here is talking about.

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              If you can so easily google shit your self, why could you not provide a single source to back up your claim about children as human shields in hospitals?
              If you belive that you have been told lies, why do you say such things so matter of factually? Do you still think that is the case?

              And why is it that you get this excessive reaction at mild push back?
              Why is it that you can't be asked to do what you ask of others?
              Could you perhaps see how one could easily be lead to the conclusion that you're not acting in the spirit you claim to?

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              • I [email protected]

                We aren’t ready for war

                Yanks and Russkis are

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                France have nukes. Just nuke tel aviv. They deserved it.

                And if the yanks doesn't like it then lets bomb new york. Just imagine all the dead yanks

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                  Of all people I’d think it would be the French, they don’t fuck around.

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                  Unfortunately I think only the foreign legion would have been likely to fire back here, and I don't they they do much peacekeeping.

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                  • I [email protected]

                    For real these UNFIL patrols are supposed to fight back against agression.

                    It is getting painfully obvious they only exist to surpress armed resistance against the occupied.

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                    seems to me they are there to document but not prevent. If they are there to support the occupiers as you said, why would the occupiers fire on them?

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                      I'm trying to replace the nonsense propaganda that I was told with factual truth and asking you for help with shit i can read to better inform myself.

                      You essentially told me to go fuck myself. Why?

                      Is your position so weak that you can't provide sources of credible reading? Sounds like you are full of shit.

                      I can easily google shit myself, but I am here asking for curated content that is credible and would align with everything everyone here is talking about.

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                      You also immediately called them a nutjob.

                      https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/

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                      • P [email protected]

                        The French Foreign Legion is actually pretty badass

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                        Hell yeah

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                          You also immediately called them a nutjob.

                          https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/

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                          Thank you for the further reading link!

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                            Sorry to hear that and thanks for sharing.

                            My dad is nowhere near as bad, but I have to helplessly watch how he slides deeper and deeper into the whole magaverse bullshit and drags my mom with him, they used to be open minded and reasonable, well educated people but since they retired they've got nothing else to do but read shit on the Internet to be outraged about and watch fascist news. I try to have reasonable conversations with them when visiting, but it gets worse as they get older, like they are not full blown magats or fascists but they say how there's pedophiles everywhere, communists are about to take over europe and climate change is just a story by some shadowy elite to scam governments and people, and are out to hurt the holy economy.
                            The kicker is that life has gone very well for them, they're struggling a little in retirement now since they failed to put any money aside other than their basic pensions, so there isn't even a reason to be this upset. You might call it pearl clutching, but it's not even that. My dad fled a communist country and built a good life from basically nothing for himself and our family, and now he rants about immigrants who are just trying to do the same. Anyway, also sorry for oversharing.

                            I just made a comment about racists being hypocrites, which ok, is not exactly clever or very observant, but somehow that got me labelled as a zionist lol.

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                            Sorry to hear you're in a similar situation with family, but at the same time, happy to hear your story, to commiserate, to have an impromptu therapy session haha.

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                              seems to me they are there to document but not prevent. If they are there to support the occupiers as you said, why would the occupiers fire on them?

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                              Because they are supposed to keep a demilitarized zone.

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                                If you can so easily google shit your self, why could you not provide a single source to back up your claim about children as human shields in hospitals?
                                If you belive that you have been told lies, why do you say such things so matter of factually? Do you still think that is the case?

                                And why is it that you get this excessive reaction at mild push back?
                                Why is it that you can't be asked to do what you ask of others?
                                Could you perhaps see how one could easily be lead to the conclusion that you're not acting in the spirit you claim to?

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                                why could you not provide a single source to back up your claim

                                I'm not going to post links to nonsense allegedly one-sided propaganda for you because that's not what I'm here for.

                                If you belive that you have been told lies, why do you say such things so matter of factually?

                                Because humans have egos, and those are built over years and years, they are difficult to take down and change. I'm coming to a realization ive been reading propaganda and had the wrong opinion the entire time and having difficulty understanding how or why this happened to me. Isee what you are saying.

                                I'm not going to answer to you, specifically, because you sound like a dipshit trying to instigate an argument for no reason, so go fuck yourself. I'm going to proceed to read the links others here have shared with me to become better informed without your help, fuck off somewhere else you bigoted dumbass.

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                                  A foot patrol of the French unit operating within the UNIFIL reserve force came under fire from an Israeli army position while inspecting an earth barrier recently erected by Israeli forces in the Wadi Qatmoun area, on the outskirts of the Lebanese town of Rmeish, according to the National News Agency (NNA).

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                                  Sounds like Casus Belli to me, lets fucking go

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                                    Its absurd that they dont. And that the security council countries doesnt reinforce the positions fired upon and return fire with 100 times the force. Having a veto in the Un should come with a lot of responsibilities.

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                                    I think France should retaliate in this specific situation but if their standard procedure were to take 100 eyes for an eye then the world would be burning.

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                                      why could you not provide a single source to back up your claim

                                      I'm not going to post links to nonsense allegedly one-sided propaganda for you because that's not what I'm here for.

                                      If you belive that you have been told lies, why do you say such things so matter of factually?

                                      Because humans have egos, and those are built over years and years, they are difficult to take down and change. I'm coming to a realization ive been reading propaganda and had the wrong opinion the entire time and having difficulty understanding how or why this happened to me. Isee what you are saying.

                                      I'm not going to answer to you, specifically, because you sound like a dipshit trying to instigate an argument for no reason, so go fuck yourself. I'm going to proceed to read the links others here have shared with me to become better informed without your help, fuck off somewhere else you bigoted dumbass.

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                                      They are using F-35s armed with half-million dollar bunker-busters against men armed with cheap AKs and sandals that also hide behind children inside hospitals, so when they inevitably die by a strike, they can blame the other for being inhumane monsters.

                                      If you learned that this was fucked up since you wrote this? More power to you i guess. Maybe just chill with the insults. Calling folks Q-anon headed two days after learning that you've been wrong for i don't know how long is a real lack of humility.

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                                        They are using F-35s armed with half-million dollar bunker-busters against men armed with cheap AKs and sandals that also hide behind children inside hospitals, so when they inevitably die by a strike, they can blame the other for being inhumane monsters.

                                        If you learned that this was fucked up since you wrote this? More power to you i guess. Maybe just chill with the insults. Calling folks Q-anon headed two days after learning that you've been wrong for i don't know how long is a real lack of humility.

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                                        I feel like I've been projecting with the name calling so far and I need to take a good look in the mirror. Appreciate your patience with my stupidity.

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                                          I feel like I've been projecting with the name calling so far and I need to take a good look in the mirror. Appreciate your patience with my stupidity.

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                                          Damn. You know what? Your really cool. Takes a lot to to admit what you just did. I would like to take the opportunity as well to apologize for the abrasiveness on my part that, i need to be better at grasping that some people actually want to learn and not use it as tools for political argumentation. Thank you!

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